Eating a diet of nothing but potatoes (or almost nothing but potatoes) causes quick, effortless weight loss for many people. It’s not a matter of white-knuckling through a boring diet — people eat as much (potato) as they want, and at the end of a month of spuds they say things like, “I was quite surprised that I didn’t get tired of potatoes. I still love them, maybe even more so than usual?!” And some people lose a similar amount even when eating only 50% potato.
Why the hell does this happen? Well, there are many theories. To help get a sense of which theories are plausible, try to find some boundary conditions, or just more randomly explore the diet-space, we decided to run a Potato Diet Riff Trial. In this study, people volunteer to try different variations on the potato diet for at least one month and let us know how it goes. For example, they might eat nothing but potatoes and always cook their potatoes in olive oil. Or they might eat nothing but potatoes and leafy greens. Or they might eat nothing but potatoes and always eat their potatoes with ketchup.
The hope is that this will help us figure out if there are other factors that slow, stop, or perhaps accelerate the rate of weight loss we saw on the full potato diet. This will get us closer to figuring out why potatoes cause weight loss in the first place, and might get us closer to curing obesity. We might also discover a new version of the diet that is easier to stick to or causes even more weight loss, or both.
In the two months since launching the riff trial we’ve heard back from ten riffs. More people have their riffs underway or are planning to start soon, so there are more riff trial results in your future. But let’s see what we’ve learned so far.
First we’ll review the overall results, and talk about our interpretation. Then, at the end we’ve included the actual riff proposals and reports from all ten participants, if you want to read about them in more detail.
Unless otherwise indicated, weight loss numbers are over a period of about 28 days, comparable to the original Potato Diet Community Trial.
Potatoes + Dairy
The most common riff to date has been one version or another of Potatoes + Dairy, five out of the ten reports so far. Let’s take a look!
72682326 ate Potatoes + Dairy Fat (butter, heavy cream, sour cream), plus a little chocolate, and lost 11.8 lbs. “This is a new low weight for me,” she adds, “I’d say going back 15 years.”
(All these plots have a span of 24 lbs on the y-axis so they can be compared directly.)

05035476 ate Potatoes + Dairy and lost 12.9 lbs.

69159819 ate Potatoes + Dairy, mostly as mashed potatoes (prepared as “5 pounds of potatoes with 1-2 sticks of butter, plenty of milk and cream mixed in, and cheese on top”) or potatoes roasted in butter, and had coffee with lots of cream. He lost 9.7 lbs, and described the experience as “truly decadent”. This report is interesting because this participant had the lowest starting BMI (just 26.6) of all the reports so far, and because previous attempts at the full-potato diet didn’t work for him.

38440610 ate Potatoes + Cheese. “My reasoning is that I thought it would be very funny if cheesy potato would work,” he explained in the signup form, “so I wanted to try.” He ate a wide variety of cheeses (feta, cheddar, parmesan, emmental, maasdamer, etc.) and lost 5.2 lbs.

67475178 ate Potatoes + Dairy + Milk Chocolate, and lost no weight. Despite this, she reports being amazed that the scale didn’t move, given how much potatoes, butter, cheese, and chocolate she was eating. “I have lost an inch of my waist (maybe less bloated?),” she says, “despite eating copious amounts of milk chocolate daily.”

Obviously this is a small sample size, but so far it looks like Potatoes + Dairy works about as well as the original potato diet, where people lost an average of 10.6 lbs over a similar span of time. So tell your friends, “I need to eat more gratin de pommes à la dauphinoise, I’m trying to lose weight!”
Given this, it’s pretty ironic that our one strict rule in the original potato diet was “no dairy”. Oops!
Sustained Weight Loss
78175908 ate Potatoes + Ketchup + Protein Powder (“derived from milk”) and lost 9 kg (about 19.8 lbs) in the process. He does mention that he doesn’t like potatoes, but says that satiety and energy levels were good overall.

87411834 ate Potatoes + Lentils in a “stew/soup” with butter, along with a few other minor interventions, like “two Gatorade Zeros each with an additional 1 teaspoon of Potassium Chloride per day” as inspired by Krinn. He lost 17.2 lbs over 29 days.
(PSA: Be careful adding more potassium when doing a potato diet because you are already getting a ton of potassium from the potatoes. At some point you will be getting too much, which is dangerous. How much is too much? It’s hard to tell! Again, be careful.)

In addition, here are two plots he provided of the same data:


40711007 did a riff that can only be quoted: “Potato + Carrot (for vitamin A) + Fish (for B12 & protein) + Marmite (for B12) + salt (I hear it can be lacking if you just eat potato) + olive oil (…honestly it’s the fat source that I had lying around when I decided to commit to the bit) + various seasonings (it’s how I make soup taste of things) + Apples (I’m only about 90% that I’d be getting enough C from potatoes) + sugar-free fizzy drinks.” Despite this list of modifications, he lost 8.5 lbs, “and that was with four explicit cheat days, as well as at least two days with an unwise amount of deep frying even by the measure of ‘amounts of deep frying’.”

None of these riffs seemed to stop the potato effect. In fact, the first two might have accelerated it. Both of them outperformed the average weight loss in the original Potato Diet Community Trial (though they didn’t outperform the extremes; the greatest amount lost in the original study was 24.0 lbs).
It’s irresponsible to speculate too much from just two examples, but both of them do include more protein. It’s possible that more protein improves the potato diet. It’s also possible that this is just noise.
Flopped
13910399 ate Potatoes + Toast with Margarine, the toast being for breakfast and an afternoon snack. He lost only 2.4 lbs. It may be that this riff doesn’t work, but there are complicating factors — he had a cold at one point during the study, took a lot of cheat days, and all the potatoes he had were boiled.

27482609 ate Potatoes + Beef, mostly grass-fed, and using butter as cooking oil. He lost only 2.0 lbs.

Both of these participants lost weight, but neither of them lost very much. Again, we should be careful about speculating from just two examples, but this definitely makes us curious whether toast, margarine, or beef blocks the potato effect in general.
If you are interested in trying a potato riff (instructions to sign up are below), we’d be very interested to see riffs of Potato + Bread/Toast, Potato + Margarine, or Potato + Beef.
Even better would be for someone to try 100% potato for 2-4 weeks, to confirm that they lose weight on the normal potato diet. Then they would add toast, margarine, or beef for another 2-4 weeks and see if they stop losing weight. If they do, they can do another 2-4 weeks of just potato and see if they start losing weight again. This could provide strong evidence that the added food somehow stops the potato diet from causing weight loss as normal.
Interpretation
We’re interested in potatoes because we want to try to figure out the cause and cure for obesity. But you may be reading this because you’re looking for a way to lose weight. In a practical sense, if you’re trying to lose weight, you might want to start by trying Potatoes + Dairy. It seems to work about as well as the normal potato diet, and it’s probably easier to stick to. If it doesn’t work for you, you can always switch to original potato diet.
Some people think the potato diet causes weight loss because it is a mono diet, a diet where you eat mostly or entirely one food. We already found this interpretation unlikely, and the riff trials provide even more data against it. Potatoes + Cheese isn’t a mono diet. Neither are Potatoes + Dairy, Potatoes + Lentils, Potatoes + Ketchup + Protein Powder, or Potatoes + Carrots + Fish + … + Sugar-Free Fizzy Drinks. Yet all of these diets caused weight loss, for at least one person who has tried them. If you still think another mono diet would work just as well, then please do a riff of your own and send us the results.
Some people think the potato diet causes weight loss because it is boring. This is often linked to Stephan Guyenet’s perspective that very palatable (read: delicious) foods lead to overeating and weight gain. From this perspective, the potato causes weight loss because it is high-satiety and low-palatability, i.e. filling yet bland. If this were true, adding delicious foods like butter and cheese to potatoes should stop or at least slow their weight-loss powers. Right? Fuckin’ wrong!
Participant 72682326 ate potatoes, various dairy fats, and sometimes chocolate. She described the experience as “I feel like I’m stuffing myself with delicious carby potatoes”, and lost 11.8 lbs over 28 days. Participant 69159819 ate potatoes and dairy, lost 9.7 lbs, and described the experience as “truly decadent”. Participant 78175908 specifically added ketchup “for enhanced palatability” and still lost 19.8 lbs. Read the rest of the reports below to see similar details. Any kind of blandness/deliciousness/palatability hypothesis predicts the opposite: adding tasty foods to the potato diet should make it much less effective, and anyone who is having a decadent time shouldn’t lose weight. Busted.


Given this evidence, we find it hard to take the mono diet or palatability explanations very seriously. If there’s anyone out there who still defends either of these interpretations, we’d love to hear what you’re thinking.
Sign Up Now
Signups for the potato riff trial are still open! And they will probably stay open all year. If you want to help out, or just try it for yourself, you can read the original blog post here and sign up at the bottom. Feel free to replicate one of the riffs described above, try an extension, or invent your own riff. It’s up to you.
We’ll be back in a couple months when we have a new batch of riff trials big enough to report. For now, chill out and enjoy the full riff reports below. :)
72682326 – Potato + Dairy Fat
Riff
Potato + dairy fat
Report
Hi there –
I almost can’t believe that 4 weeks have gone by already but here we are. I started at 216 and today I’m at 204.2… I had 6 substantial deviation days, 2 of which were in the past week (family funerals are rough on diet experiments!)
Before I comment on the last for week, I’ll offer a little history about me. I’ve been obese pretty much my whole adult life. I’m 48F, 5’5”, hourglass-ish (ie low-ish WHR), and with one exception when I was in my early 30s, never was able to get my weight reliably below 250. By early 2022, I was up to 270 and had been in that vicinity for at least a couple of years. Before the pandemic I had gotten down just below 250 but the pandemic showed up and I gained back everything I’d lost and maybe a little more. On Feb 22, 2022 (2/22/22, I’m a fan of palindromes) I decided to get serious and lose weight, no matter what. Over the course of 2022, I lost about 50 pounds using what I refer to as my change-up diet(when I get bored, I change it up, so I cycled through CICO, low fat, high fiber, keto, vegetarian, a very brief carni stint, etc etc.) Early in 2023, I came across r/SaturatedFat and r/StopEatingSeedOils on reddit and then was kind of off to the races on that whole thing. I was having a hard time losing (and even maintaining) at that point and had some luck maintaining the weight loss on TCD. But I wanted to lose more. It was in April/May 2023 that I came across Exfatloss’s stuff and his ex150 experiment so I did that in May/June 2023, starting at 220 and ending at 206. I then had a ton of work travel and various other life events (aka summer in Wisconsin) that made it difficult to keep losing. I stayed under 210 for the most part until some work and personal stress in September/October when things started trending up again, leading to a bit of a freak out and my plan to do a potato spin off (saw someone comment somewhere on Reddit that potatoes + fat was working for them, so I figured what the heck, because I love potatoes and it’s one of the foods I’ve missed the most while doing a fair amount of low carb eating.) About a week in I told Exfatloss what I was up to and he told me about your potato riff and that’s when I messaged you.
Sorry that was a lot but I just wanted to kind of lay that all out. Here are my thoughts on the last 4 weeks.
My starting weight. The scale said 216, yes, but average wise my weight going in to this was more like 214, and it was a recent 214 from a previously lower average weight of 210ish. But I was definitely in a gaining trend that I wanted desperately to reverse.
My ending weight. This is a new low weight for me, I’d say going back 15 years. Back then the low weight that I hit was a brief victory, I got there via keto and I probably stayed that weight for a couple of weeks, if that, then lost the keto battle and put the weight back on and then some.
The food I ate: basically, I’d have coffee with heavy cream for breakfast and then potatoes and dairy fat (butter, heavy cream, sour cream) for lunch and dinner. I’d usually target eating about 200-250g of potatoes per meal depending on how hungry I was. I’d add enough fat to make it taste good. I’d also be liberal with salt and other seasonings. I would eat slowly so that if I started to feel full, I’d stop before I felt sick (I had a day where I was in a rush and ate too fast/too much and felt terrible the rest of the day.) If I felt like I needed something sweet, I’d have a square of dark chocolate or a Lindt 70% cacao truffle.
The weight I lost. As I mentioned above, I previously got down to 206 on ex150 back in May/June. My weight loss efforts always take a couple of times to stick so I’m super excited about this weight loss, it makes me think that I can keep losing. I loved the food on ex150 but that way of eating was pretty difficult to incorporate into my life. I’d say that I love this way of eating about as much and it’s easier to make work for me. Easier to make work -> easier to stick with it.
Speaking of keto. I mentioned it in my notes on the spreadsheet but there were days that I was in ketosis (my wife has a finely tuned nose for keto breath, for better and for worse.) I was really surprised by this. I know I’m not in major keto because I haven’t dropped all the water weight like I did on ex150. I feel like I’m stuffing myself with delicious carby potatoes, so how is that happening? I have a couple of thoughts on that.
1) the lion’s share of the potatoes I’m eating are yellow or red potatoes that have been cooked/cooled/reheated, so are the carbs lower than I think because of resistant starch, and/or does resistant starch have some magical quality that we haven’t quite sussed out yet
2) is the high quantity of saturated fat and/or low quantity of protein making it easier to get in to ketosis.
3) something else I’m not thinking of
Couple of last thoughts: I’m so excited about these results and my plan is to continue to eat like this for the foreseeable future (holidays might be tricky, crossing that bridge when I get there, one meal at a time). A goal I had for this year was to get to onederland, but it was not happening and I decided not to make myself crazy over the holidays by trying to lose weight. I was just going to ride it out in that average 210-215 weight zone and then attack it again in 2024. Now I’m feeling like I could maybe get to that point yet this year. I’m elated at this prospect.
That was a lot, hopefully not TMI. Is there anything else you’d like to know?
Thanks for doing this! I’m looking forward to seeing other people’s riffs.
05035476 – Potatoes + Dairy
Riff
potato plus dairy b/c i like those things and I read the ice cream hypothesis…would be very interesting if the combo helped wait loss b/c of all the negative pub on dairy in diets
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Hi There!
Finished my potato diet! Very happy with the results, some cheat days at the end that kept my weight a little bit up. Think I have Stockholm Syndrome now and am keeping up with the taters. Best diet ever.
Hope my data can help. Kept to potatoes plus dairy, didn’t go hard on the dairy, just supplemented my potato intake. Tried to keep it low in BCAA, but some seed oil hash browns and fries included in there.
Mood and digestion was all great during the diet. Only cranky one was my wife having to cook for herself :)
69159819 – Potatoes + Dairy
Riff
My intent is to try potatoes + dairy. This riff is particularly interesting for a few reasons. From a lifestyle perspective, this seems like a relatively accessible way to do the potato diet. I love mashed potatoes (the most delicious way to eat potatoes), most of the toppings I put on baked potatoes are dairy foods, and I don’t see any reason I couldn’t roast potatoes with butter instead of oil. Additionally, the last time I tried the potato diet (as an unregistered personal experiment), I think the olive oil I relied on to roast my potatoes upset my stomach, so I’m interested if this approach eliminates that issue.
Potatoes + dairy is also interesting to me from an ancestral health perspective. My family comes almost exclusively from the British Isles, and I recently read a book (“Highland Folk Ways”) that provided a detailed description of the diet the Highland side of my family would have followed. The historic Highland diet was ridiculously high in both dairy and potatoes! If anyone is able to thrive on just potatoes and dairy, it should be me. If I don’t lose weight/feel good (especially if a future riff without dairy does work for me), that would be particularly valuable information for my personal health.
Beyond those more personal factors, dairy seems pretty controversial in health/fitness/nutrition circles, which makes it interesting. More than I decade ago, when I was first learning about nutrition, I remember reading the strength coach Mark Rippetoe talk about putting scrawny high school boys on the Gallon of Milk a Day (GOMAD) diet, and he proposed that milk was uniquely anabolic. (I seem to recall that the proposed mechanism was Insulin-Like Growth Factor (IGF-1), but further details elude me now.) When you’re trying to put muscles on a high school kid, anabolism is good, but not so much if you’re trying to lose weight. At the same time, dairy is a staple of plenty of non-obese cultures (most of Northern Europe, for example, which is where I am genetically from). Anyway, I’ve noticed that I’m confused about dairy, and that makes it exciting.
I intend to start the day after American Thanksgiving (November 24). Thanksgiving is a big potato holiday in my family, so I’ll have plenty of leftovers to get started with. I will continue up to December 24, the next major date that has food traditions associated with it. I intend to use a mixture of russet, gold, and red potatoes. My major foods will be mashed potatoes (made with lots of milk and butter), potatoes roasted in butter, and baked potatoes with dairy toppings (butter, sour cream, cheese, etc.). I will not restrict incidental dairy in my coffee (I often put a small amount of cream or milk, or have the occasional latte), but I do not intend to eat tons of supplementary dairy (e.g., no ExFatLoss-style whipped cream desserts).
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I just took my 4 week weight measurement for the potatoes + dairy riff.
Overall results were surprisingly good – almost 10 pounds of weight loss despite eating massive amounts of both potatoes and dairy. Even assuming that some of the initial weight loss was water, it was impressive. I’ve included some implementation details below to add some context, or in case others want to try to replicate the riff.
Mashed potatoes were the MVP meal – 5 pounds of potatoes with 1-2 sticks of butter, plenty of milk and cream mixed in, and cheese on top, generally lasting 4-5 meals. It was truly decadent. I suspect that I ate that for something like 35-40 total meals, with potatoes roasted in butter making up another 10-15 meals. I generally did coffee with lots of cream (2-4 mugs/day) for breakfast, then had potatoes for lunch and dinner at normal times (roughly 12 and 6, but I made no effort to manipulate the times I ate, I just ate when I was hungry). Rarely (something like 5 meals, each indicated on the sheet) I would eat french fries from a restaurant, mostly for social reasons.
Compared to my previous personal experiment with the potato diet, the dairy makes this so much more accessible for me. First of all, it means fewer overall potatoes, since I was getting quite a bit of satisfaction from the hefty amounts of dairy. While I’m very excited to eat non-potato food (my wife commented last night that I have begun to stare longingly at other people’s food), I’m actually not tired of potatoes. (I actually ate leftover potatoes for lunch, despite technically ending my diet yesterday.) Second, having the dairy also pushed me to prepare almost all of my potatoes from an unprocessed state, rather than trying to justify frozen potatoes, potato chips, and various forms of fried potatoes.
The original potato diet did not seem to work for me. Besides the presence of dairy, the other major confounding factor is the preparation method – in my previous attempt, I mostly ate roasted potatoes (probably 50% peeled, 50% unpeeled, roasted with olive oil). In the dairy riff, a majority of my meals were mashed potatoes, which started with peeling and boiling. During this iteration, I noticed that when I ate roasted potatoes, my weight plateaued or went up the next day (I actually started recording that in my notes part way through). I assumed that was just water retention (maybe I just salt roasted potatoes more heavily?), but it was a very consistent pattern. I’ll also note that this argues against the “boiling potatoes removes the potassium, so boiled potatoes won’t work as well” theory from the original riff intro post!
Let me know if you have any other questions, and thanks for organizing this whole thing! I’m excited to see the results of other riffs.
38440610 – Potatoes + Cheese
Riff
My riff is potatoes and cheese. My reasoning is that I thought it would be very funny if cheesy potato would work, so I wanted to try. My plan is to do the 4 weeks, I have no idea how I will feel afterwards so it’s hard for me to say if I will continue. I know from the past two years, in which I recorded my weight to track weight-loss, that I have a much harder time loosing weight in spring time (or even just holding my weight). If this works now, I will repeat it in the spring to see if it still works then.
Side note: I just did a quick google search if it’s common to gain weight in spring and a quick search suggest the polar opposite. Might just be because I am lazy and not very social, while others are especially active during spring.
Anyhow there is one caveat for me in this: My goal is to loose weight so if this riff turns out horribly (I feel like a good cut-off point is if I gain 10 lbs total at any point relative to my starting weight) my plan is to abort this riff and transition to the traditional potato (pure-tato?) diet. I plan to document everything so hopefully it will still be useful fore someone. If the pure-tato diet also does not work for me, at least I will have suffered for science T^T
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thanks for organizing this riff trial. It was a great experience and a lot of fun.
I think generally potatoes + cheese works. I wasn’t very strict to begin with and when I cheated it reset my progress quite a bit.
After week two I started to get fed up with potatoes and also was pretty stressed in general. I think for me the resulting mental state was the biggest hurdle.
Even though I tended to get satiated more easily on the potato + cheese diet in general, in that time I ate more than ever and still felt hungry.
I’m stopping for now because it will be a pain during the holidays and I’m also planning to move flats in January which would make it increasingly difficult to adhere to the diet.
But I like the idea of continuing N=1 experiments after things settled down a bit.
Yours,
participant 38440610
67475178 – Potatoes + Dairy + Milk Chocolate
Riff
Potatoes + dairy + milk chocolate for at least four weeks. I have chosen dairy as I would enjoy the potatoes more with butter and cheese and I’m curious as to the weight loss effects if any. Chocolate because I’m curious about that as well.
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Hi I have completed the four weeks off my riff! I have lost no weight, but I have lost an inch of my waist ( maybe less bloated?). Despite eating copious amounts of milk chocolate daily. My blood pressure has also gone down a bit from 138/95 to 137/87 I’m not sure if that’s of any significance.
I was amazed I didn’t put any weight on! I ate a variation of potatoes for every meal with either butter and cheese or both. Followed by some milk chocolate or a yogurt mixed with cream. Usually the potatoes were microwaved in the skin.
78175908 – Potatoes + Ketchup + Protein Powder
Riff
+Ketchup +100g protein per day (150g powder, made from milk)
Personal Experience with the Potato Diet Riff (November 1st to 28th)
Introduction
- Diet Overview: Engaged in a modified version of the Potato Diet from November 1st to 28th, adding ketchup and protein powder.
- Purpose: To explore the effectiveness and adaptability of the Potato Diet while maintaining muscle mass and energy levels.
Riff Details
- Ketchup Addition: Included ketchup for enhanced palatability.
- Protein Supplementation: Consumed 150 grams of protein powder daily, providing an additional 100 grams of protein from 563 kcal. This was to prevent muscle loss, given the low protein content in potatoes.
Results
- Weight Loss: Achieved a significant reduction in weight, from 87 kg to 78 kg over 28 days, with a more rapid loss observed initially.
- Hunger and Convenience: Generally, hunger was not an issue; however, the diet’s convenience was sometimes challenging, particularly during busy periods.
- Potato Preparation: Utilized jarred potatoes (425 grams per jar), rinsed and microwaved for a minute, served with ketchup.
- Energy Levels: Maintained stable energy throughout the diet, contrasting previous diet experiences that involved reduced eating.
Observations
- Non-Palatability as a Factor: Personal dislike for potatoes and the unpleasant taste of the protein powder negatively impacted the diet experience.
- Beverage Consumption: Primarily drank water, with occasional sugar-free pop.
Conclusions
- Efficacy: The diet was effective for weight loss, even with the modifications.
- Muscle Maintenance: The high protein intake likely contributed to preserving muscle mass during the diet. No measurements were made.
- Satiety and Energy: Satiety was generally good, and energy levels remained stable.
- Private factor: For privacy reasons, I’ve omitted a factor that may be important. Please don’t update too strongly on my results.
- Palatability Challenges: The diet’s success might be hindered by the non-enjoyable nature of the foods consumed, suggesting a potential trade-off between effectiveness and enjoyment.
87411834 – Potatoes + Lentils
Riff
“Potato Stoop” – basically a stew/soup of potatoes, onions, celery, red lentils and butter cooked in an Instant Pot (so I’m retaining the broth and hopefully the potassium). I’ll likely add in some supplementing with potassium chloride later when I receive it from Amazon. I’m hoping to stick with it for several weeks.
Rationale: lentils will add some protein and fiber (maybe a good thing?), and the rest is to help make it tasty and “not just potatoes”. I’ll also add salt, pepper, and various hot sauces to keep it from becoming too same-y and bland.
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Hey,
I’ve reached the four week mark and wanted to give an update on how things have been going and why I’ll continue with this for a while longer! It doesn’t feel like it’s been four weeks…
Background
I’m a 47 year old cishet white male with a sedentary lifestyle (IT consultant) living in Canada. Over the last few years I’ve gained “The Covid 19” and then some, so this was a good opportunity to try and lose weight for myself and For Science!
Protocol
First up, some details on what I’ve been eating. My eventual-standard recipe has been:
- Approx. 5 lbs yellow potatoes (i.e., eyeball half a 10 lb bag from the supermarket)
- 3 cups water
- 1 cup dry lentils – more on this shortly
- 1/4 cup butter
I cut the potatoes into pieces with a maximum dimension of around an inch; half go into an instant pot, then the water, then the lentils sprinkled on top, the other half of the potatoes (so now we have a half-submerged raw potato sandwich with dry lentil filling) and the butter on top. This cooks in the Instant Pot at high pressure for 11 minutes, preferably with natural release. I then “finish” things by using a wooden spoon to roughly mash the potatoes and combine in the lentils. Serve with hot sauce of choice. Do it all over again in a couple of days.
Aside Number One: Laziness aka “recipe optimization”
Originally I was also sauteing a finely diced onion and chopped celery first before doing the above steps – this added significantly to the prep time and didn’t add enough value to the experience, so I dropped it. I’ve also tried adding some herbs to the recipe but they didn’t do much for it either. Sometimes simpler truly is better. This recipe’s prep time is about five minutes.
Aside Number Two: Lentil options
At first I was using red lentils – they are a better aesthetic option as they dissolve into the cooking water and have little effect on the colour of the end product, maybe even brightening it a little. When I ran out of those I switched to green lentils – they also taste good but the colour of the result is not as inviting. Opinions will likely differ though, and it’s something I’ve adjusted to.
Aside Number Three: Potassium
I read Krinn’s experiences with Potassium supplements with great interest and decided to include this in my protocol. Starting in the middle of week two, I’ve been drinking two Gatorade Zeros each with an additional 1 teaspoon of Potassium Chloride per day. Sadly, the Costco multipack here in Canada doesn’t include “blue”.
Adherence
There have been two days when I’ve been “off” the diet. The first was an all-day industry conference, so I was eating the delicious catered food at the event. The second was after a very long day, I had an alcoholic beverage and then pigged out on the leftovers from my youngest (bagel, chicken fingers, etc…).
I’m allowing myself a “small” quantity of potato chips as part of the diet, as the meals don’t have any crunch to them and I miss that texture. I also will have things like fresh berries. All that said, I’m staying conscious of what I’m eating and staying away from what I would consider my “typical” diet.
In terms of mealtimes, I’ve sort of fallen into a 16-hour fasting period with an 8-hour feeding window. I typically have my first meal at around 11:30 in the morning, and the food day is over by 7:30PM. My potassium supplementation is generally aligned to these times as well.
This hasn’t been a hardship to adhere to because I’m giving myself some grace from being completely strict. Does that make this “riff-ish”? Perhaps, but I also feel that, outside a medical context, people are typically going to be mostly-good at sticking to a strict eating program. I would say I’m achieving the main goal, that the majority of my calories are coming from my riff. Maybe I’d have a different perspective if I was doing a more fun riff like “potatoes and Snickers bars” :)
Results
I’ve been extremely pleased with how this has gone. This first graph shows progress so far (in kilograms, the native measure of my scales) – on the first day I lost almost 3kg, which I assume is water weight. The three bars are the daily weigh-in (blue), a three-day average (orange) and a seven-day average (gray). The smoothed curves show a pretty consistent weight reduction over time after the first day’s outlier reading.

I find the sawtooth peak/drop pattern intriguing in the raw data, but prefer the smoothed data for looking at overall progress.
I also found it useful / inspirational to pull a seven-day rate of change graph for these readings:

It’s a bit of a mess because the lines all overlap, but you can see from the smoothed curves that I’m typically down between 1 and 1.5 kg (i.e. two to three pounds) compared to the reading from a week before. There hasn’t yet been a sign of a decline in the rate of change.
Next Steps
As the graphs indicate, I plan on continuing this for a couple more weeks – at that point it’ll be the holiday season and I will be fully participating in seasonally appropriate food consumption! After that I will resume the diet; it’s working, I feel good doing it, and I don’t feel like I’m missing out.
Thanks for inspiring me to give this a shot!
40711007 – Misc.
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Potato + Carrot (for vitamin A) + Fish (for B12 & protein) + Marmite (for B12) + salt (I hear it can be lacking if you just eat potato) + olive oil (…honestly it’s the fat source that I had lying around when I decided to commit to the bit) + various seasonings (it’s how I make soup taste of things) + Apples (I’m only about 90% that I’d be getting enough C from potatoes) + sugar-free fizzy drinks (realistically if I try to fully abstain from Treats(TM) I might indulge further than planned on other days).
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Hello Slime Mold Time Mold,
This morning was the 28th measurement. As I believe you can see from the data (I suppose I’m assuming you have at least read-access to the spreadsheet that you made and then gave me a copy of), in that time I shed a net total of about 8.5lb from my body mass, and that was with four explicit cheat days, as well as at least two days with an unwise amount of deep frying even by the measure of “amounts of deep frying”.
Among other things this is enough evidence for me that on the order of 2 litres a day of aspartame juice sugar free fizzy drinks is not enough on its own to thwart the potato diet. While I would by no means recommend that anyone, ever, rely on crisps (known as “chips” in America) as a main source of any nutrient, even salt – they were close to a logistical necessity during office days, and even with far more packs a day than I’d normally have used, they weren’t a consistent factor in weight gain days.
Going forwards, obviously I’m not going to be able to stick to the exact riff rigorously over Christmas, however “getting most of the calories from taters” seems to have worked pretty well as a medium to long term stratagem – at least until the trend line stops going down. Of course, I’m most certainly adding onions and swede to the list of explicitly allowed foods (can’t really make soup without onions; can’t make tatties and neeps without the neeps), and probably chicken too as it’s a cheaper protein source compared to even the cheapest tinned fish (certainly if you measure by just grams of protein per unit legal tender). Which is to say, I’ll still be taking data, but “had chicken” is no longer going to get a tick of “majorly broke diet”.
Looking forward to analysis of the data – here’s hoping something more useful was got at this stage, beyond “you can add dietary sources of A and B12 with different macro profiles to the potatoes without totally wrecking the diet” and “in a shock not seen since the Pope was confirmed to be Catholic, excessive consumption of deep fried food is correlated with weight gain”.
Kind regards
Mr Cavern
13910399 – Potatoes + Margarined Toast
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My plan is to follow the potato diet but have toast with margarine for breakfast and afternoon snack. When I tried the potato diet for the first time, I had a lot of bread cravings, so it would be great if I could have it and still lose weight. I’m trying out the margarine to see if consuming seed oils hinders weight loss.
Additionally, I’ll also have mandarins and soy milk in small quantities, which are not part of the main plan, but I had them during my first attempt at the potato diet and still lost weight without any issues.
I will follow the diet for 4 weeks (unless I feel unwell or start gaining weight rapidly), and if I see that it works well, I will continue it for a longer period.
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I was very motivated at the start, but at the end I was cheating a lot. Also, I got a cold or something last week and I lost some weight due to that. The days I was sick have a note on the “Observations” row. And maybe relevant, all the potatoes I ate were boiled.
27482609 – Potatoes + Beef
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Potato + Beef. My plan is to make potatoes the majority of my food intake, since my normal diet is very high in meat. It wouldn’t be much of a trial for me if I allowed no potato and unlimited beef. I’m not exactly sure how exactly what the restriction will be; perhaps a pound of steak and then as much potato as I want.
I will be using butter as a cooking oil, writing down how much I use per day, and I may also have beef liver on occasion.
I’d like to get back into my gym routine during the trial, and I’m not very much in the mood to experiment with a low protein diet. I also have a freezer full of grass-fed beef and I’d like to actually eat it.
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I’ve put my four weeks in, so I’m done. I’m sorry to say this will not be the most insightful or interesting trial you receive, but here it is. I’ve left my few thoughts and comments in the spreadsheet itself.
General notes from the spreadsheet:
I had intended to record mass of potato and steak, but I ended up messing that up enough that it wasn’t worth recording. As you can see, I was not perfect at measuring myself in the morning, either. Sorry about that.
I generally ended up eating equal parts beef and potato, sometimes large majority potato, very rarely large majority beef.
Common recipes include diced potatoes with beef, mashed potatoes with beef, sliced and fried potatoes with steak.

I’m wonderomg of anyone has tried potato diet or a riff of it and cooked most or all of their potatoes by microwaving them with the skins on. This would be my preferred cooking method, but I wonder if the microwaves could somehow sabotage the potato effect as boiling seems to do?
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It would be interesting to find out, you could try it!
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Participant 67475178 did exactly this 😛
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Just taking starting weight-ending weight is not a good way to analyze the data! For example, imagine you have a downward trend + some oscillations , if you start at a trough of the oscillations and end at a peak you have less decrease than you “actually” have . This is kind of what it looks like to me as what is happening with the Potatoes+Beef case, by eye I see a clear downward trend but the start and end values hide it.
Maybe do a linear fit instead (or some “robust” version thereof)?
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I tend to agree. But my hot take is that the right way to measure weight loss is to look between day ~8 and the end. Everyone loses some water weight at the start of a silly diet. What happens next is where the rubber meets the road!
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I’m still not convinced this is not the result of a lack of hyperpalatability. I suppose one could argue what hyperpalatibility means here but I think potato + cream/cheese, while tasty, wouldn’t meet the bar needed. Hyperpalatable foods induce additional eating – probably by inducing a consistent dopamine release that doesn’t get downregulated with subsequent eating as much as it should. Potatoes are consistently amongst the highest foods in satiety indices – and while I imagine adding fat-based substance (like cheese and oil) results in a satiety decrease – and a palatability increase – I don’t think it reaches this level of palatable except in the extreme.
I think other popular processed food does meet this definition however – and why I suspect the person who ate milk chocolate did not experience any fat loss.
I also like the hyperpalatability hypothesis because it’s a relatively simple hypothesis that seems to fit in with a bunch of other observations:
– Survival of the fittest between food companies resulted in addictive foods – even if discovered unintentionally – which sold more.
– These addictive foods contained certain mixtures of macronutrients and flavorants that were uncommon in our evolutionary niche.
– Thus, our bodies were largely unequipped to handle the requisite caloric bookkeeping needed to maintain a healthy homeostatic weight while consuming them.
– People got obese.
– And then despite policy changes reducing fat and sugar intake, nothing improved until we got GLP-1 agonists – which seem to target addictive behaviour directly.
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I have a feeling we’re going to discover that the obesity crisis has been caused by several factors, and I definitely agree that satiety and palatibility could be some of those factors! 🙂
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Why defend a weird definition of “palatability”? It’s ok if there are other hypotheses but they don’t seem related to how tasty the foods are. “Hyperpalatable foods induce additional eating” is demonstrably false if “hyperpalatable” means anything like “participants said it was very delicious”.
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I think it’s important to distinguish because hyperpalatable is not equivalent to merely palatable. Many foods in our evolutionary niche were presumably very palatable, (videos of a Hadza tribe’s euphoric response to honey come to mind), yet the wide spread accessibility of these things did not immediately result in obesity (I believe the Mayan’s domesticated bees as early as 2000 years ago).
I do agree it will likely end up being multiple factors however – after all our niche has transformed unrecognisably in only a handful of centuries.
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I agree it has to at least be a factor. Mixed inputs is something both Andrew Huberman has advised against mixed inputs for training with citations to investigate. it has to apply to diet too. Our bodies can probably figure out dairy vs potatoes, but chocolate is very dopamine heavy.
Check out Seth Roberts work on this.
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I’d love to see BMI overlayed in the weight charts with same scale on each one. This could point to efficacy differences based on leanness and / or metabolic health.
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Anyone came across the notion of protease inhibitors? They are practically plant chemical defense systems telling mammals to stop eating them, by interfering with their digestive system (namely how they process various proteins).
Apparently potato is ridiculously high in protease inhibitors. If you google satiety index you’ll come across an article by an Australian scientist trying to quantify how satiating various foods are. Potato is off the scales satiating, and the hypotheses is that it’s due to these protease inhibitors. Oats are quite high up (and I am presuming any other whole grains would be, on same principles – study tested whole wheat bread, but commericial ww bread rarely has above 25% ww flour in it, so their ww bread score should be lower than actual whole wheat).
I have been experimenting with baking and ended up eating significant amounts of 100% wholewheat stoneground flour bread, generally with butter / soured cream / yoghurt (like 2 mealls of bread & diary & one regular meal eating whatever). During this period I noticed some strange satiety effect + increase in thirst (my ad lib calories eaten were consistently under 1600pd, no hunger or effort required). 5lbs fell off in about a month. I usualy strugle to be under 2400 on average, low obese BMI and my weight is usually trending up!).
I have just given potato + diary a go for the past few days and satiety level is insane. Ad lib calories could easily fall under 1000-1200 without effort!). Not a huge fan of potatoes but results pretty mind blowing so will carry on to 30 days and report. Would like to do 30 days of proper whole wheat + diary & 30 days of oats + diary and compare.
Anyone who has more info on protease inhibitors in plants and how they work please get in touch. Would like to know for example how much of these protease inhibitors you need to eat to have an effect, what other substances block them, are there any side efects, has the satiety effect been consistently tested on animals in lab setting, etc.
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Very cool! 🙂
I’ve been thinking about something similar, recently: Is the key to weight loss to low-level poison oneself all the time?
One thing I noticed while I was on the meat and veggies diet was that the restaurant that I ate at every night often served bitter greens, specifically mustard greens and another kind, I think. Perhaps the real cause of my weight loss on this diet was not that I was eating lots of protein and no carbs but that I was eating bitter veggies (and a good mix of other vegetables) somewhat frequently! I also frequently drank Chinese bitter tea while on the diet and seemed to notice a correlation between that and weight loss, too.
(There’s more info about my meat and veggies diet at https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2023/11/17/philosophical-transactions-neoncube-on-the-meat-and-veggies-diet/, if you’re interested 🙂 )
Another anecdote: My grandpa lives on a rural farm in Missouri. He’s always been skinny and he’s still pretty skinny even now, in his 70’s. Some of that is probably due to the large amount of physical labor that he does every day, but I wonder if it’s also due to the fact that he grows and eats several kinds of bitter greens that are essentially unheard of in the modern diet.
The last time I was in Missouri, I kept pointing to wild plants and asking my grandpa “Is that edible?”, and his answer was pretty much always the same: “It is if you don’t eat too much of it.” That’s a pretty different perspective than most modern people take, which is that a food is either edible or poisonous.
My mom has mentioned something similar on multiple occasions, too: People don’t like their veggies to be bitter, so most modern varieties of vegetables have had much of their oxalic acid bred out. Perhaps the the most impressive example of this is brussels sprouts, which used to be very bitter but are now almost sweet. (This is why children stereotypically hated brussels sprouts: they were incredibly bitter).
More recently, Slime Mold Time Mold has been reporting that people are finding success losing weight by eating chocolate. I wonder if this could also be related to the bitterness of chocolate.
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My hypothesis is that any low-variety diet (potatoes and dairy, potatoes and Gummy worms, etc) will lead to weight loss.
So what really interests me are the riffs that *didn’t* lead to weight loss. For example, the “potatoes and beef” riff. If that replicates with other people, I think that’s actually an interesting finding. (Although that participant said “I’d like to get back into my gym routine during the trial,” so there’s a confounder.)
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I am so glad I randomly came across this post. As another piece of anecdata, I tried an all-potato diet about 5 years ago as an experiment/joke/curiosity alongside someone who vowed to eat nothing but meat. I ate literally just potatoes (boiled then allowed to cool as I was more in it for the resistant starch), with some iodised salt and pepper. I had to give up a week in because I developed debilitating intestinal pain but I will agree for that short period of time it was incredibly satiating and I always looked forward to my bowl of potatoes. I’d be keen to try again but I have the kind of workplace where I would face endless weird comments about my lunch, sadly.
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Have you seen Slime Mold Time Mold’s recent “potato riffs”? Basically, they’re asking people to try out potatoes + something else of their choice (e.g. potatoes and dairy). Seems like something you might be interested in 🙂
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