Philosophical Transactions: AS on Potatoes-By-Default (Plus Sauce)

Previous Philosophical Transactions:

This account has been lightly edited for clarity, but what appears below is otherwise the original report as we received it. 


From April 21 of this year until today (August 5), I’ve been on a potatoes-by-default diet. This was inspired by the email by M (Philosophical Transactions: M’s Experience with Potatoes-by-Default). In that time, I went from a weight of 173.0 pounds to a weight of 155.4. I’m giving myself a slight handicap, because I actually started the diet about two weeks earlier and my weight was ~180, but I didn’t track my meals or get a digital scale until the 21st and my analog scale was unreliable. Depending on how robust you want to be about it, I’ve lost 17 or 24 pounds in 107 or 121 days. About half of that weight loss was concentrated in the first few weeks, but I kept it off and continued losing over the rest of the diet period.

The most interesting thing I have to say about this is that I have nothing interesting to say. My experience matches what I expected from reading this blog and other sources. I’ve lost weight, and noticed no adverse health effects. That made me almost not want to share here, but it’s important to share replications!

The Details

Here are the eccentricities of my particular case:

1. The diet variation I chose. 

I chose “potatoes by default” because I was interested in testing it, and because my social life puts me in group meal settings regularly. And then I added sauce because I had some sauce in the fridge I was hoping to use up. Initially I was going to discontinue the sauce after finishing it up, but I realized it wasn’t adding very many calories and I was curious whether it would affect the diet. My usual meal was a bowl of potatoes with roughly 2 tablespoons of sauce for dipping.

My favorite sauces after four months include the Zesty Secret Sauce by Marie’s, the Creamy Buffalo Sauce by Sweet Baby Ray’s, and the Gold BBQ Sauce by Kinder’s. Sometimes I would add some everything bagel seasoning and melted butter to the buffalo sauce – absolutely amazing!

One question discussed on the blog has been whether some ingredient serves as a blocker, and these sauces contained a whole lot of supposed blockers, which I think is interesting data. The percent of my meals with/without potatoes was inconsistent over the course of the diet, but sauce with potatoes was a constant, so if there’s a complete potato-diet-effect blocker, it wasn’t in the sauces.

I cooked the potatoes by cutting off the skin, cutting them in half or thirds depending on the size, and baking them in the oven on parchment paper at 425 for around 70 minutes. Potato varieties used were mostly russet and gold, sometimes red, and “baby” varieties if they were on sale.

The rest of my diet was very standard – all the normal-American-diet ingredients that might be blockers were involved, and there was no particular portion control beyond not eating when I was full.

2. Exercise.

I don’t believe exercise played a substantial role in the weight loss, but I had two exercise habits going on during this experiment and I did lose weight, so it’s worth reporting on them.

First, I walked a minimum of 10,000 steps each day, although that actually undersells the average (15,313).

Second, roughly 10 times during the experiment period, I played dance video games (DDR or Just Dance) for a minimum of 2 hours at a relatively intense difficulty mode. These mostly happened in the first two months, and were discontinued for personal reasons and not for diet or health-related reasons.

“I Could Never Do That,” Said The Person Who Never Tried

Some friends I discussed this diet with said they were interested, but could never do it, because they get cravings for specific foods when they’re hungry. I find this absolutely unpersuasive. The rules I followed let me have snacks when I got cravings; I still lost weight, and the cravings were less common than before the potato diet.

Some people in previous experiments writing on this blog noted that their desire to have junk food largely subsided while in “potato mode”. It was pretty easy for me to control what I ate at home. But sometimes I would be outside the house, and I would be a little bit hungry and get a small meal at a restaurant, and then I was in trouble! Because if I ate something small, I suddenly found myself hungry for dessert too. But if I didn’t eat out, and I went about my day, I would be perfectly happy not following that impulse. 

At any rate, if you’re going to follow any diet, potato dieting is about as close as a diet can be to Pareto optimal: (e.g. it’s better in every possible way than any diet you compare it to)

  • It’s easy to do. The rules are simpler than any other diet; the shopping is simpler; the meal prep is simpler.
  • It’s easy to stick to; it’s the only diet I’ve ever kept for more than a week. My experience with other diets is that you are constantly thinking about the food and fighting cravings for other food. For some reason, a potato diet doesn’t create that for me, especially with the leniency of “-by-default.”
  • It’s less expensive than any other diet. I spent roughly $500 a month less on groceries over the period, despite eating the same proportion of my meals at home.

No Grand Conclusion

Ultimately, this is an N=1 replication. There were times when I ate better and times when I ate worse. I didn’t always lose weight when I was having non-potato meals, but if I gained weight (e.g. on travel) I would quickly lose it again when going back to potatoes. This feels like the “lipostat” hypothesis to me; eating a lot of potatoes did something to make my set point weight lower than it otherwise would be.

I’m happy to have lost weight and even happier to be able to provide a tiny bit more data in support of the potato diet. 

Chart created by SMTM from data provided by AS

Links for July 2024

Case Report: Took 500mg of Potassium and all my melancholy instantly transmuted into rage. What’s the limit on how much of this shit you can take???

Humans 1, Chimps 0: Correcting the Record – You may have seen the videos where a chimp does amazingly well on a number task, suggesting that chimps have better working memory than humans. But this is probably not true. The chimp in the video does so well because he has had a huge amount of practice. When you give humans a similar amount of practice, they do about as well. A reminder to in general trust primatology findings less than you might otherwise.

Chimps can learn karate, though.

In one study of lithium in urine samples, urine lithium was positively associated with TSH, and high levels of TSH can be a sign of thyroid dysfunction. The authors conclude, “Exposure to lithium via drinking water and other environmental sources may affect thyroid function, consistent with known side effects of medical treatment with lithium.” Jandrade0112 on twitter says, 

to my eyeballing this looks like thyroid inhibiting effects don’t really kick in until urinary excretion > 5 mg/L, which is roughly 5 mg daily lithium intake

r/Biohackers claims about baking soda

He secretly changed this freeway sign, helped millions of drivers. Top YouTube comment: 

In 2001, a friend and I had gotten so tired of a massive pot hole in Seattle that we went and got some vests and bags of asphalt and fixed it ourselves. We didn’t live near it, but hung out down there almost daily and hated driving over it. People in the neighborhood asked if we were from the city, and we said no. People clapped, and one brought us iced tea. A city bus came by as we were finishing and was so happy he drove over it, backed up, and drove over it several times to pack it in. I drove by it earlier today for work, and our patch still holds.

Ellen Airhart ran fireproof envelopes through a charcoal grill to test how well they protect paper. Verdict: they don’t work at all. Not a single one, even though they were tested at only about 400 °F,  less than a quarter of the minimum temperature the envelopes were certified for.

How giant ‘water batteries’ could make green power reliable

China rocked by cooking oil contamination scandal (h/t RedTailTabby on twitter)

The Chinese government says it will investigate allegations that fuel tankers have been used to transport cooking oil after carrying toxic chemicals without being cleaned properly between loads. … Transporting cooking oil in contaminated fuel trucks was said to have been so widespread it was considered an “open secret” in the industry, according to one driver quoted by the newspaper.

Kamala Holding Vinyls

Disappearing polymorph 

The original medication was manufactured in the form of semisolid gel capsules, based on the only known crystal form of the drug (“Form I”). In 1998, however, a second crystal form (“Form Il”) was unexpectedly discovered. It had significantly lower solubility and was not medically effective. 

Form Il was of sufficiently lower energy that it became impossible to produce Form I in any laboratory where Form Il was introduced, even indirectly. Scientists who had been exposed to Form Il in the past seemingly contaminated entire manufacturing plants by their presence, probably because they carried over microscopic seed crystals of the new polymorph.

KineStop is an app that draws an artificial horizon on your phone or tablet to keep you from getting motion sick while reading in the car. Zed (@zmkzmkz) on twitter says, “it looks silly but trust me it’s magic”

Amateur Mathematicians Find Fifth ‘Busy Beaver’ Turing Machine

I burn 4,600kcal/day being sedentary – ExFatLoss finds weird results using doubly-labeled water. Definitely keep this one in mind when you see other claims based on methods using doubly-labeled water (e.g. this one that has been going around recently).

Doubly-labeled water is allegedly the Gold Standard ™ test for energy expenditure. It’s what Herman Pontzer and John Speakman have built careers on. It’s apparently so precise it’s used to calibrate all the other tests, basically gospel. So what gives?

Real Chaos, Today!

The first, obvious issue [with RCTs] is that external validity is weak: there’s no real way to verify whether a study generalizes besides its application. This comes from a series of issues, primarily that transporting the results is mostly done based on “faith”. Also, the internal validity of the study is usually in question too: basically, the results for the population are too heterogenous to be both precise (i.e. capturing properly the value of the effect) without being unbiased (affected by “noise”, so to say). And even when the average effect of a treatment is correctly identified, it is never guaranteed that the average effect is the most relevant statistic.

Lithium Hypothesis of Obesity: Recap

Imagine you’re us. You’re looking into the idea that the obesity epidemic is caused, in part or in whole, by some kind of environmental contaminant. The idea already seems pretty strong, but you want to narrow it down to some specific contaminants that might be to blame, so you start putting together a list.

You happen to be aware of a long-running literature that finds correlations between trace levels of lithium in groundwater and public health outcomes, things like lower rates of crime, suicide, and dementia, and decreased mental hospital admissions (meta-analysis, meta-analysis, meta-analysis). 

You also know that when lithium is prescribed as a treatment for conditions like bipolar disorder, people often gain weight as a side effect. Based on these two facts alone — lithium causes weight gain at clinical doses, and some clinical effects seem to appear with long-term trace exposure — lithium already seems like the kind of thing that might cause obesity. You add it to the list. 

Lots of contaminants on the list don’t survive your scrutiny. When you look into glyphosate (the weed-killing chemical in Roundup), you find lots of evidence against it, and you come away feeling pretty strongly that glyphosate doesn’t cause obesity. Same thing when you look at seed oils.

But the case for lithium keeps getting stronger the longer you look.

You already knew that lithium can cause weight gain at clinical doses, and you know about the literature connecting trace levels of lithium in groundwater to lower rates of things like suicide and homicide rates, suggesting that even the trace levels found in drinking water can have behavioral effects, maybe because of accumulation from long-term exposure. On top of that, you discover that there is one randomized controlled trial examining the effects of trace amounts of lithium, which found that a dose of only 0.4 mg per day of lithium led to reduced aggression, compared to placebo, in a group of former drug users. 

You find that many of the professions that are unusually obese — like firefighters, truck drivers, and vehicle mechanics — work closely with heavy machinery, including trucks and cars, that are lubricated with lithium grease. And you notice that the Middle East is one of the most obese regions in the world. This potentially fits because they get a lot of their drinking water from desalinated seawater, which may contain relatively high levels of lithium. And because (as you will later learn) fossil fuel prospecting, especially from arid regions, tends to cause a lot of lithium contamination.

None of this is conclusive, but it seems promising. You start putting out the series A Chemical Hunger, with lithium as one of your three examples of chemicals that might be causing obesity.

Among other things, this leads to some discussion on Reddit. People raise such good points that you decide to review some of their comments in an interlude to the series. There’s a lot worth considering here, but the highlight ends up being a point from u/evocomp, who says:

The famous Pima Indians of Arizona had a tenfold increase in diabetes from 1937 to the 1950s, and then became the most obese population of the world at that time, long before 1980s. Mexican Pimas followed the trend when they modernized too. 

This is an excellent point. Sure enough, the Pima in the Gila River Valley of Arizona were unusually obese and had “the highest prevalence of diabetes ever recorded”, way back before the general obesity rate had even broken 10%. 

This seems like a real blow to the lithium hypothesis — unless, of course, the Pima were exposed to unusually high levels of lithium way before everyone else.

Turns out, the Pima were exposed to unusually high levels of lithium way before everyone else. For starters, you find this report which says, “In the Gila River Valley, deep petroleum exploration boreholes were drilled during the early 1900’s through the thick layers of gypsum and salty clay found throughout the valley. Although oil was not found, salt brines are now discharging to the land surface through improperly sealed abandoned boreholes, and the local water quality has been degraded.” The report also notes that “lithium is found in the groundwater of the Gila Valley near Safford.” You also find this USGS report, which says a Wolfberry plant “was sampled on lands inhabited by the Pima Indians in Arizona; it contained 1,120 ppm lithium in the dry weight of the plant.” This is an extremely high concentration compared to other plants. 

Another USGS report says, “Sievers and Cannon (1974) expressed concern for the health problem of Pima Indians living on the Gila River Indian Reservation in central Arizona because of the anomalously high lithium content in water and in certain of their homegrown foods.”

You track down Sievers & Cannon for more detail. Sure enough, you find that the average concentration of lithium in American municipal waters in 1970 was about 2 ng/mL, while the average concentration of lithium in the water of the Gila River Indian Reservation was about 100 ng/mL, around 50 times higher. Sievers & Cannon also say:

It is tempting to postulate that the lithium intake of Pimas may relate 1) to apparent tranquility and rarity of duodenal ulcer and 2) to relative physical inactivity and high rates of obesity and diabetes mellitus.

This couldn’t possibly have been said with the goal of explaining the obesity epidemic, because the obesity epidemic didn’t exist in the early 1970s when the quote was written. Sievers & Cannon had no idea the obesity epidemic was coming. It was a neutral observation.

If you had to point to some moment as the one we started to believe in the lithium hypothesis, this would be it.

It’s easy enough to come up with a theory that fits all the evidence you’re working with. It’s hard to make a theory that will fit the evidence you’re unaware of. The real test of a theory happens when it comes in contact with something new and relevant. The hypothesis that lithium is responsible for the obesity epidemic makes two predictions (with some allowance for reality being very weird): If some group was exposed to high levels of lithium earlier than everyone else, that group should become especially obese before everyone else did. And conversely, if there’s a group that became unusually obese before everyone else did, that group was probably exposed to unusually high levels of lithium early on. The Pima fulfill these predictions.

As you discover more about the lithium hypothesis, you add more interludes to the series. In the first interlude, you talk more about the possible sources of lithium contamination, like lithium grease, desalinated seawater, and the enormous spills that are a byproduct of fossil fuel prospecting. You also provide a close read of the paper by Sievers & Cannon. 

In the second interlude, you take a look at the idea that modern people might be getting exposed to more lithium as a result of drinking from deeper wells made possible by better drilling techniques, and you start making some international comparisons.  

Then you decide to try something a little silly. You happened to find a list of the most and least obese cities and communities in America, based on data from Gallup. You think it would be kind of funny to go through each of the cities and communities on the list, and see if you can find out how much lithium is in their drinking water.

This really seems like a long shot. Most cities don’t track the lithium levels in their drinking water, and even if the lithium hypothesis is entirely correct, even if you were able to find some measurements, it’s not clear that the data would show a clear relationship. After all, communities can have more than one source of drinking water, and drinking water isn’t people’s only source of exposure. 

But the project unexpectedly turns out to be a huge success. You discover that the leanest communities tend to get their water from isolated reservoirs or pristine mountain snowmelt. Sometimes you can even find official measurements that confirm low concentrations of lithium. The most obese communities, meanwhile, tend to be drawing from aquifers with high levels of lithium, or directly downstream of coal ash ponds that are confirmed to be leaching lithium into the groundwater, or downstream of a lithium grease plant that recently exploded.   

All this seems like pretty strong evidence in favor of the lithium hypothesis. A critic would have to argue that unusually obese cities just happen to be downstream from lithium grease plants that experience catastrophic failures. This happened not once, but twice. What are the odds of that, exactly?

A few months later, you get an email from JP Callaghan, an MD/PhD student at a large Northeast research university and specialist in protein statistical mechanics, modeling, and lithium pharmacokinetics. It’s hard to briefly sum up this wide-ranging conversation, but JP agrees that the lithium hypothesis is plausible and discusses some perspectives like bolus-dose exposure and multiple-compartment models that, taken together, suggest that if you’re exposed to small doses over a long enough span, it might even be possible to end up with internal lithium levels as high as those achieved with clinical treatment. 

This still assumes that to gain weight, you need to end up with a clinical-level dose in your brain. But the trace exposure literature makes you think that even small doses have some effects. To test this, you survey people who take much smaller doses of lithium as a nootropic, and find that people who take doses as small as 1 mg/day report feeling all kinds of different effects, some of them quite negative. This suggests you may not need big, clinical doses of 50+ mg/day to gain weight, especially if you are exposed to low doses for a very long time. 

Of course, 1 mg/day is still more lithium than most people are getting from their water. But you know that people get at least some lithium from their food. Remember how the Pima were eating wolfberries that contained 1,120 ppm lithium, which works out to like 15 mg per tablespoon of wolfberry jam? 

You wonder how modern food compares, so you do a literature review. You find good evidence that there’s lithium in modern food, and especially high concentrations in certain foods like meat and eggs. You do another literature review looking at the fact that different sources report very different concentrations of lithium in modern foods. You find that the different papers use different analytical techniques, which may explain why they get such different results.

You test this idea by running an actual study to compare the different analytical techniques. Lo and behold, you find that exactly as you predicted, some techniques almost never detect any lithium in food, while other techniques detect it easily. The second set of techniques are almost certainly the more accurate ones, since they give consistently different readings for different foods, while the other techniques indiscriminately return almost nothing but zeroes. 

Looking at the results themselves, you see that some of the foods you tested contain markedly high levels of lithium. In this sample, the highest levels were detected in ground beef (up to 5.8 mg/kg lithium), corn syrup (up to 8.1 mg/kg lithium), goji berries (up to 14.8 mg/kg lithium), and eggs (up to 15.8 mg/kg lithium).

You decide to do a followup study to take a closer look at those eggs. The results confirm your original findings — nearly all the samples contain detectable levels of lithium, and around 60% of samples contain more than 1 mg/kg lithium (fresh weight). As before, the egg samples with the highest concentrations of lithium contain just over 15 mg/kg in the fresh weight. 

Another hint is that high enough doses of potassium seem to sometimes cause weight loss (though perhaps only under just the right circumstances). People clearly lose weight on the potato diet, and certainly the potato diet provides huge doses of potassium. On top of that, people who took small doses of potassium in solution lost a small but statistically significant amount of weight. And there are the case studies from Krinn, who lost a lot of weight while supplementing potassium, and from Alex C., who lost a smaller but appreciable amount. 

This also seems like some evidence for the lithium hypothesis. Potassium and lithium are both alkali metals, and it’s already well-established that sodium interferes with lithium kinetics in the body, so much so that going on a low-sodium diet while taking clinical doses of lithium can be very dangerous. It’s plausible that potassium has similar interactions.  

Correlational Analysis

People often ask us, what’s the correlation between obesity and lithium in drinking water? Honestly, we find this question a little confusing. 

First of all, everyone knows that correlation doesn’t imply causation. If you discovered a correlation between lithium in town drinking water and obesity in those towns, that would be slightly more evidence that lithium causes obesity, but by itself a correlation isn’t very strong evidence of a causal relationship.

Second, as we described in Section IV of A Chemical Hunger, a small correlation, or even no correlation at all, isn’t evidence of no relationship. Even when there’s a real relationship between two things, there are lots of things that can make it look like there’s no correlation; one example is that looking at a truncated range almost always makes a correlation look smaller than it really is. If you were to look at correlations in lithium exposure, you should expect to be looking at a somewhat truncated range, so the correlation in the data would be smaller than the real relationship, which could be misleading. 

This is why we don’t really care about the correlation, because it couldn’t clear things up one way or another. A strong correlation between lithium in water and obesity rates wouldn’t be particularly convincing evidence in favor of the hypothesis. And a weak correlation, or even no correlation, wouldn’t be particularly convincing evidence against. Since it doesn’t clarify either way, you can see why we think that going after these data would be a waste of time. 

What would be convincing is experimental evidence, if we could get it. (Though this isn’t always possible; for example, the smoking-lung cancer relationship was established without any human experiments.) We don’t understand why correlation comes up so often. People should remember their hierarchy of evidence.

In general we think this question reveals a misunderstanding about what correlation really is. A correlation is just a mathematical way of describing a relationship, and not even a very sophisticated one. The relationship is what we’re really interested in, and we already have good reason to believe that this relationship is pretty strong — all the evidence we laid out above. In our first post on lithium, in our second post on lithium, in our post on groundwater contamination and historical/international levels, and in our post looking at the fattest and leanest communities in America, we very reliably found that places exposed to high levels of lithium had high rates of obesity, and places exposed to low levels of lithium had low rates of obesity. This is strong evidence for a relationship, even if that relationship can’t immediately be expressed as a correlation. 

All this to say, we can give you a correlation coefficient, but we don’t want you to take it very seriously. It does (spoiler) come out in favor of the hypothesis that lithium exposure causes obesity. However, for all the reasons we outlined above, it is not actually strong additional evidence, just one more small item to add to the pile. 

Yes, it is a strong positive correlation. No, that is not conclusive, you need to weigh it in the balance with all the other evidence. Do not turn off your brain when you see the scatterplots. 

To calculate a correlation coefficient, you need cases where you can find a number for both the obesity rate, and for lithium exposure. In many cases we can’t get one of these numbers (how obese was Texas in 1970? no one knows) or can’t get a specific number, even though observations are in line with the theory (drinking water in Chilean towns can contain up to 700 ng/mL lithium, but how much is it on average?). 

But when we look at the 15 cases where we can give specific values to both variables (the American cities of Denver, San Jose, Barnstable, Miami, DC, McAllen, and San Antonio circa 2010-2020; plus measurements from Greece, Italy, Denmark, Austria, Kyushu Japan, 1964 America, 2021 America, and the Pima in 1973), the scatterplot looks like this: 

That correlation is r(13) = 0.744, p = 0.002, with a 95 percent confidence interval of [0.374, 0.910]. 

The shape is pretty reminiscent of a standard dose-response curve, but it could also indicate a logarithmic relationship; if you log-transform the lithium dosage, it looks very linear:

That correlation is r(13) = 0.732, p = 0.002, 95 percent confidence interval [0.351, 0.905]. 

This can’t be cherrypicked because those are all 15 cases we are aware of where we have a measurement for both the obesity rate and the level of lithium in local drinking water. If you are aware of other cases, let us know and we will add them to the scatterplot.

There are only 15 datapoints. But at the same time, the correlation is clearly significant, p = .002, even with different models.

Pace Deniers 

Some people seem to think we have an axe to grind about lithium, but we’re not sure where this perception came from. At the start we took lithium no more seriously than any other candidate. Over time, we found the evidence compelling, and now we think the case in favor of lithium is quite strong. This is all very carefully documented in A Chemical Hunger and our posts ever since. You can see every step of the process. 

Clinical doses of lithium cause weight gain. Not for everyone, but it’s a known side effect. Many effects of lithium probably kick in at trace doses, especially when exposure is long-term. This is probably because lithium accumulates in the body, in the thyroid and/or brain (though possibly somewhere else, like the bones). 

Lithium levels in US drinking water have been increasing for at least 60 years. We know where it’s coming from: increasing use of lithium grease, from industrial applications, and from contamination from fossil fuel prospecting, which produces brines known to be enormously rich in lithium. 

Populations that were exposed to modern levels of lithium in their drinking water decades before everyone else had modern levels of obesity decades before everyone else. Many of the professions that are especially obese are professions that are regularly exposed to lithium grease. 

Most of the leanest communities in America are places where lithium levels in the drinking water are either plausibly low given circumstances (e.g. they get their water directly from pristine snowmelt) or confirmed low by measurement. Most of the heaviest communities in America are places where lithium levels in the drinking water are either confirmed high by measurement or plausibly high given circumstances (e.g. they are directly downstream from a lithium grease plant that recently exploded).

It would be hard for this argument to be any simpler. Honestly, we keep feeling like we’re in the mental gymnastics meme: 

We couldn’t fill out the other half of the meme because we honestly can’t tell what deniers are thinking? If you are a lithium denier, please fill out the other half and @ us on twitter.

Lithium Hypothesis for Dummies

To help make this discussion easier, in the following sections we break down the argument in favor of the lithium hypothesis piece by piece.

We invite people to dispute this case. It would be great to hear counterarguments! 

We want to make it REALLY EASY for people to engage with the hypothesis, which is why we went to the trouble of writing this post. 

However, we have conditions.

If you want to argue, we charge you to either: 1) make the case that these premises are wrong, or 2) make the case that the inferences don’t follow from the premises. 

Anything else is pointless griping, and shows a serious lack of reading comprehension, to respond to a hallucinated version of the hypothesis rather than to what we have actually written. We won’t respond to such “arguments”. If we haven’t responded to you in the past, it’s because you displayed reading comprehension levels so low that we couldn’t find a productive way to engage.

As Zhuangzi (Kjellberg translation, p. 218) explains: 

Making a point to show that a point is not a point is not as good as making a nonpoint to show that a point is not a point. Using a horse to show that a horse is not a horse is not as good as using a nonhorse to show that a horse is not a horse. Heaven and earth are one point, the ten thousand things are one horse.

Doses

For background, let’s talk about lithium doses. 

In clinical settings, lithium is usually prescribed as lithium carbonate, and doses are given in milligrams (mg) lithium carbonate. However, lithium carbonate is 81.3% carbonate and only 18.7% elemental lithium, so the dose of lithium is much lower than the prescribed dose. For example, if you are prescribed 600 mg of lithium 2 times a day, that’s 1200 mg of lithium carbonate, which works out to about 224 mg of elemental lithium. 

To keep things standard, and to focus on the actual effective dose, numbers from here on are always elemental lithium. 

  • Clinical doses of lithium are usually between 336 mg/day and 56 mg/day. However, in rare cases lithium is prescribed at doses as low as 28 mg/day (e.g. here and here), suggesting there may be therapeutic effects at doses this low. 
  • Doses between 50 mg/day and 1 mg/day we will refer to as subclinical doses, since they are smaller than the usual clinical dose, but still appreciable amounts.  
  • Doses of less than 1 mg/day will be called trace doses, since you are unlikely to get more than this from your drinking water alone.

Premises

To the best of our knowledge, the following premises are all well-supported. However, some of these premises have more evidence behind them than others.  

Premises about Effects and Doses of Lithium

Premises about Lithium Contamination and Exposure

Premises about the Obesity Epidemic

  • O1: Some professions are much more obese than others. For example, the Washington State Department of Labor and Industries survey of more than 37,000 workers found that truck drivers were the most obese group of all, at 38.6%, and mechanics were #5 at 28.9% obese, while only 20.1% of food preparation workers were obese, and only 19.9% of construction workers. Another source, the National Health Interview Survey Data, (2004-2011) found that motor vehicle operators, health care support workers, transportation and material moving workers, protective service workers, and “other construction and related workers” had some of the highest rates of obesity.
  • O2: The Pima people, sometimes called Pima Indians, are a group of Native Americans from the area that is now southern Arizona and northwestern Mexico. In the United States, they are particularly associated with the Gila River Valley. The Pima seem to have had normal rates of diabetes and obesity in 1937, but by 1950 rates of both had increased enormously, and by 1965 the Arizona Pima Indians had “the highest prevalence of diabetes ever recorded.” 
  • O3: In the early 1970s, Sievers & Cannon found that the median lithium level in the Pima’s drinking water was around 100 ng/mL, 50 times higher than the median level of lithium in US public water supplies at the time, which was just 2.0 ng/mL
  • O4: In addition, Sievers & Cannon found an “extraordinary lithium content of 1120 ppm” in the local wolfberries, which the Pima “used occasionally for jelly”.
  • O5: Lithium contamination in the Gila River Valley likely came from fossil fuel prospecting. This report says, “In the Gila River Valley, deep petroleum exploration boreholes were drilled during the early 1900’s through the thick layers of gypsum and salty clay found throughout the valley. Although oil was not found, salt brines are now discharging to the land surface through improperly sealed abandoned boreholes, and the local water quality has been degraded.”

Premises about Lithium Concentration in Food

Primary Inferences

  • K1 – From D1, D3: Some of the known effects of lithium that appear when someone takes clinical doses also kick in at subclinical doses.
  • K2 – From D1, D4, D5, O3: Some of the known effects of lithium that appear when someone takes clinical doses also kick in at trace doses.
  • K3 – From C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6, C7, C8, C9, C10, C11, O3, O5: Lithium contamination in the United States has increased since 1962 as a result of human activity, especially fossil fuel prospecting.
  • K4 – From F1, F2, F3, C11, O3, O4: Lithium concentrates in certain foods.
  • K5 – From O1, O2, O3, O4, O5, C4: Specific populations who have been exposed to high levels of lithium have high levels of obesity.

Secondary Inferences

  • S1 – From D2, K1, K5: Exposure to subclinical doses of lithium causes weight gain. 
  • S2 – From D2, D4, K2, K5: Long-term exposure to trace doses of lithium causes weight gain. 
  • S3 – From C1, C2, O2, O3, O5, K3: People are regularly exposed to trace doses of lithium in their drinking water, especially people in areas with notable fossil fuel prospecting like the US and the Middle East.
  • S4 – From C11, O4, K4: People are regularly exposed to subclinical doses of lithium in their food, especially people who eat food grown in areas with notable fossil fuel prospecting like the US.

Tertiary Inferences

  • From S2, S3, C7: The US and Middle East are so unusually obese because they are both arid regions that produce a lot of fossil fuels, leading to relatively high levels of lithium in the local environment.
  • From S1, S4: The US is a net food exporter, this is why the world in general is becoming more obese.

Predictions

No prediction can be entirely decisive, but here are some predictions that are likely to be true if the arguments above are sound, and lithium is a major cause of modern obesity rates:

  • International variation in obesity rates can be predicted by how much fossil fuels the country produces (not counting sources of fossil fuel that are not concomitant with lithium or that are in locations where they won’t expose people to lithium, e.g. offshore) and how much food they import from the US. International variation is also partially genetic, so even if this is a good fit, it won’t explain anywhere near 100% of the variance between nations. We explore this idea a bit in this post.
  • If someone makes a dataset of US counties that includes a “height in watershed” variable, that variable will be more strongly related to obesity rates than a raw altitude variable. If someone can somehow make a “downstream of how much fossil fuel activity” estimate variable, that variable will match even better.  

Remaining Questions

Assuming lithium causes obesity, 

  • How big of a dose is needed to make most people obese? And where is that lithium exposure coming from? Here are three possible (but not exhaustive) scenarios:
    • Trace doses of lithium are sufficient to cause obesity. Lithium is cleared from the brain so slowly (see e.g. this paper, “lithium has an increased affinity to thyroid tissue … [investigations reveal] the lithium elimination from brain tissue to be slow”) that over a long enough timespan, even very small doses accumulate. 
    • Many people become obese on subclinical doses alone, so the subclinical doses of lithium found in food are sufficient to cause obesity. Trace levels in water have a small impact because they provide a more constant dose that keep levels stable, but wouldn’t be able to cause obesity on their own.
    • Subclinical doses of lithium by themselves are not enough to cause obesity. However, some foods contain more lithium than others. Sometimes you get unlucky and eat foods with such a high concentration they give you a bolus containing a small clinical dose, which over time leads to serious accumulation. Eventually lithium in the brain reaches the same levels as you would see on clinical doses. 
  • We know that some plants concentrate lithium in their soil and/or water. Of the crops we grow for food, which concentrate lithium? What’s the rate of concentration — 2x, 10x, 100x? For various levels of lithium in soil and/or water, how much lithium ends up in various parts of the plant? What other factors influence this concentration? Similarly, how much do animals concentrate lithium in their feed into the animal products we eat? 
  • How do we treat obesity caused by lithium exposure? Is it enough for someone to eat a low-lithium diet? Or do you need to take measures to increase the clearance of lithium from your system? What measures can accomplish that? 
  • What percent of the obesity epidemic is caused by lithium exposure? 100%? 20%? Something in between? What else, if anything, is causing such high rates of obesity?
  • In general, what are the best methods to remove lithium from soil and water supplies?

Alternatives

Some of you may still prefer alternative theories. That is ok.

However, we do want to emphasize that alternative theories should be able to explain the following: 

  • The unusual relationship between altitude and obesity rates in the United States. We say “unusual” because while many people want to pin this on something immediately related to altitude (like the idea that lower oxygen levels at high altitudes cause lower weights), this doesn’t actually match the evidence. First of all, the paper that people generally point to in support of this idea, Lippl et al. (2010), is quite bad. Weight loss was minimal, the analysis looks p-hacked (or at least suffers from multiple comparisons issues), and the study isn’t even an experiment, there is no control group. On top of that, since they manipulate altitude rather than manipulating oxygen directly, so this is at best evidence that altitude causes weight loss, not evidence for any particular mechanism. No points for presenting a paper that finds evidence for the premise trying to be explained, rather than trying to explain it. As for other arguments, Scott Alexander looked at the case in 2016 and concluded that the atmosphere probably doesn’t cause obesity. Also, simple elevation theories don’t actually match the evidence. Low-altitude states like Massachusetts and Florida are relatively lean, and West Virginia is relatively obese. In our opinion, the pattern matches “length of watershed” better than altitude itself (Massachusetts is very low-altitude but also in a very short watershed), and “aggregate drinking water exposure to fossil fuels” even better (West Virginia is high-altitude and near the top of its watershed but also the site of lots of fossil fuel activity).
  • Why the Pima were so obese so early on.
  • Why some professions are so much more obese than other professions, and why those particular professions are so unusually lean or obese.
  • Why Toledo, OH is so unusually obese and Bridgeport, CT is so unusually lean. Why Green Bay, WI is more obese than St. Paul, WI. Why Bellingham, WA is only 18.7% obese while Yakima, WA is 35.7% obese. In general, why the most obese cities and communities are so obese and the least obese cities and communities are so comparatively lean

The lithium hypothesis does a pretty good job explaining all of these observations. As far as we know, no other hypotheses of the obesity epidemic can be squared with them. It’s not like they have seed oils in Charleston, WV and not in Charlottesville, VA. It’s not like food is more palatable when placed in front of auto mechanics than when served to other professions. These are rather strong relationships and they need to be explained.

To be completely fair, there are some similar questions that the lithium hypothesis has yet to explain. Here they are:

Finally

And if you want to learn even more, we strongly encourage you to read:

Lithium in American Eggs

1. Introduction

In our previous analysis, we tested the lithium levels of ten American foods. 

All ten foods were found to contain levels of lithium above the limit of detection, but some foods contained a lot more than others — ground beef contained up to 5.8 mg/kg lithium, corn syrup up to 8.1 mg/kg lithium, and goji berries up to 14.8 mg/kg lithium. 

But of the ten foods we looked at, eggs appeared to contain the most, up to 15.8 mg/kg lithium when analyzed with ICP-OES: 

The Results of the Previous Study 

So for our next study, we decided to look at more eggs. 

The first reason to look at more eggs was to confirm the results of our first study, and confirm that these numbers could be replicated.

The second reason to look at more eggs was to start getting a better sense of the diversity of results. Where the first study gave us a small amount of breadth by comparing several foods, the second study would give us a small amount of depth by comparing several eggs. 

The third reason to look at more eggs was that we might be able to find an outlier, a sample of food that contains far more than 15 mg/kg lithium. Eggs containing 15 mg/kg lithium are somewhat of a public health concern; how much more concerning would it be to find eggs that contain 50 mg/kg, or 100 mg/kg. 

(There are reports of such outliers in other foods, in particular from work by Sievers & Cannon in the early 1970s, who reported an “extraordinary” lithium content of 1,120 mg/kg in wolfberries from the Gila River Valley.)

As in the previous study, this project was run with the support of the research nonprofit Whylome, and funded by a generous donation to Whylome from an individual who has asked to remain anonymous. General support for Whylome in this period was provided by the Centre For Effective Altruism and the Survival and Flourishing Fund

Special thanks to all the funders, Sarah C. Jantzi at the Plasma Chemistry Laboratory at the Center for Applied Isotope Studies UGA for analytical support, and to Whylome for providing general support. 

The technical report is here, the raw data are here, and the analysis script is here. Those documents give all the technical details. For a more narrative look, read on. 

2. General Methods

2.1 Eggs

First, we collected a sample of eggs from grocery stores around America.

We started by purchasing several cartons of eggs from grocery stores near Boulder, Colorado. We bought several different brands, and tried to get a fair mix of eggs, both white and brown, conventional and organic. 

However, this was still not enough diversity for our purposes. So in the meantime, we asked friends from around the country to mail us cartons of eggs. 

Fun fact: Eggs don’t actually require refrigeration, Americans are basically the only weirdos who even keep them in the fridge. Especially when it’s mild outside, they keep for many weeks at room temperature. So shipping these eggs was relatively easy — really it’s just about packaging them with lots of padding so they don’t break. Most of the eggs arrived intact and we’re very grateful for the great care in packaging and shipping taken by our egg donors (ha). 

The list of eggs is summarized in greater detail in the technical report.

From most cartons, we took two samples of 4 eggs. This gave us two measurements per carton, which should give us some sense of how much variation there is within an individual carton.

Each sample was homogenized/blended with a stick blender for 1 minute to obtain a smooth, merengue-like texture. The blended mixture was then transferred to drying dishes and dried in a consumer-grade food dehydrating oven.

We also pulled out one brand for more testing, to assess individual egg-to-egg variability. From the carton of Kroger Grade AA, we took two samples of 4 eggs as normal. Then we took three more samples of individual eggs. The single eggs were blended and dried just as the larger 4-egg samples were. 

When all samples were dried, they were crumbled into a powder, weighed, put into polypropylene tubes, and shipped off to the lab for further processing.

2.2 Digestion

Food samples need to be digested before they can be analyzed by ICP-OES. Based on our results from the previous study, we used a “dry ashing” digestion approach, where samples are burned at high temperatures, and the ash is dissolved in nitric acid. 

Incineration causes organic compounds to exit the sample as CO2 gas, but elements like sodium, potassium, magnesium, and lithium are non-volatile and remain behind in the ash.

2.3 Analysis

ICP-OES generates a tiny cloud of high-energy plasma, the “inductively-coupled plasma” of the acronym, and injects a cloud of liquid droplets into that plasma (hence the need for digestion). ICP-OES then examines the light that is emitted by the plasma as the liquid sample hits it.

In addition to lithium, we also analyzed all samples for sodium. Sodium is chemically similar to lithium, and most foods contain quite a lot, which nearly guarantees a good signal in every sample.

This makes sodium a useful point of comparison. At every step, we can compare the lithium results to the sodium results, to see if general patterns of findings match between the two elements.

3. Results

All samples were analyzed as one project, but for clarity of understanding, we’re going to report this project in two parts, as two studies.

In Study One, we look at the main body of results — eggs analyzed as four-egg batches from a single carton.  

In Study Two, we look only at the Kroger Grade AA eggs — analyzed as two four-egg batches and three one-egg batches, to assess individual egg-to-egg variability.

3.1 Study One

 For starters, here is a histogram of the distribution of lithium measurements in our egg samples: 

We’ve previously speculated that the distribution of lithium in food would be lognormal, as it is in drinking water, and indeed this looks very lognormal. 

For comparison, here’s the distribution of sodium:

Note that the x-axis is extremely different between the two plots! This is not surprising; eggs contain a lot more sodium than lithium.

For a sanity check, the USDA says that “Egg, whole, raw, fresh” contains 142 mg sodium per 100 g egg. Converted, that’s 1,420 mg/kg, which approximately matches these results, though the mean in this sample is much lower at only 987.3 mg/kg. The median is 963.0 mg/kg, and the standard deviation is 288.8 all told.

Slightly surprising are those three samples that (according to the analysis) contain almost no sodium — their values in the data are 7.6 mg/kg, 1.5 mg/kg, and one measurement below the limit of quantification. 

3.1.1 By Batch

More interesting is the breakdown by batch.

As a reminder: each carton of eggs (aside from the Trader Joe’s eggs, due to an oversight) was used to create two batches of four eggs each. Then, each batch was tested in triplicate, so each carton was tested six times. Here, each bar indicates a batch. Each batch has three dots, representing each of the three results from the tests done in triplicate: 

The main finding is that lithium was detectable in nearly all eggs. This suggests that ICP-OES is more than sensitive enough for this type of work, and that in general, eggs contain appreciable levels of lithium. 

Most egg samples contained between 0.5 and 5 mg/kg. The few readings of “zero” in the plot actually mean “less than about 0.04 mg/kg moist weight”.

Hypothetically speaking, the batches were all well-mixed. Eggs were blended with a stick blender for a full minute (to a very creamy consistency, think meringue), then dried and crumbled, and the dried bits mixed up. So it’s quite surprising that after all that, there’s so much variance within the batches.

Some of the batches show close agreement between different samples from the same batch. Both Simple Truth AA batches have only a very small amount of variation. Whole Foods Batch 2 is bang on every time. 

But other batches show a lot of variation. Batch 1 of Organic Valley and Batch 1 of Eggland’s best both contain one sample that is a huge outlier. You might dismiss these as some kind of one-off analysis error. But some of these cases, like both CostCo batches or the first Land-O-Lakes batch, show disagreement between all three samples. 

We wondered if this might mean that these batches were imperfectly blended. This would be quite surprising, given the lengths we went to to ensure that the batches were well-mixed. 

If the batches were perfectly blended, then all three samples should contain identical levels of lithium. The only differences between the results would then be errors in the analysis, not real differences in the samples. But if errors were the only source of noise, you would expect to see similar levels of variation in every batch. 

Two explanations seem likely.

First, lithium is very strange. In our last study, we saw that sometimes you get very different numbers for the exact same piece of food. Maybe the differences between different samples from the same batch comes from the fact that it’s hard to get accurate measurements for lithium levels in food.

Second, perhaps eggs are just goopy. It’s possible that despite our best efforts to completely blend the samples, they are still less than perfectly mixed, so some samples from the same batch contain more or less lithium than others. 

We can test these explanations by comparing the lithium results to the sodium results for the same set of batches and samples. If the variance is the result of a problem with lithium detection, then the sodium results should be much more consistent within batches. But if the variation comes from the eggs being imperfectly blended, then we should see similar variation in the sodium results as in the lithium results. 

3.1.2 Sodium

Here are the sodium results: 

Sure enough, there is a lot of variation between sodium levels, even within single batches. This suggests that the variation we saw in the lithium results is not the result of something weird about lithium. It’s probably something general about the samples or the analysis. 

Some of the variation in sodium lines up with the lithium results. The Whole Foods batches show great precision for both lithium and sodium, suggesting that they are especially well-blended or homogenous or something. But there is also some disagreement. For lithium, Organic Valley Batch 2 was much more precise than Organic Valley Batch 1. For sodium, it is the opposite. 

Sodium does show something unique — three very clear outliers with readings of almost exactly zero sodium (specifically 7.6 mg/kg, 1.5 mg/kg, and one reading below the limit of quantification). 

These look like errors of the analysis rather than real measurements. All three are outliers from the sodium data in general, more than three standard deviations below the mean. All three are from different batches and starkly disagree with the other samples from that batch. And we have strong external reasons to expect that any bit of egg will contain more than zero sodium.

In addition, we notice that these three cases with exceptionally low sodium levels are the exact same three cases that registered as below the limit of quantification for lithium. This suggests that none of these readings are real, that there were three samples where something went wrong, and the analysis for some reason registered hugely low levels of sodium and no lithium. If true, that means that all real measurements detected lithium above the limit of quantification.

The other variables we considered, like location, egg color, and whether or not the eggs were organic, didn’t seem to matter. Maybe differences would become apparent with a larger sample size, but they’re not apparent in these data.

3.2 Study Two

You might expect that hens from the same farm, eating the same feed, would all have roughly similar amounts of lithium in their eggs. For the same reason, it seems likely that any two eggs in the same carton wouldn’t be all that different, and would contain similar amounts of lithium.

All the above seems likely, but we actually have no evidence. It’s an assumption, and exactly the kind of assumption that could really confuse us if we assume wrong. It’s worthwhile to check.

Certainly the results from Study One call the assumption into question. A thoroughly blended mix of four eggs seems like it should have homogenous levels of lithium throughout. But empirically, that isn’t what we saw. We saw a lot of variation. Maybe the variation within those 4-egg batches comes from differences between the four eggs.

To test this, we did another round of analysis, focusing on a single carton of Kroger eggs. As before, of the 12 eggs in the dozen we took two groups of four to create two four-egg batches.

In addition, we took three of the remaining four eggs, and used them to create three one-egg batches, mixing and sampling just that single egg. The one-egg batches each consisted of a single egg from this carton, blended well. The one-egg batches were also tested in triplicate, i.e. three samples from the same egg. 

Here are the results: 

These four-egg batches look much like the four-egg batches tested in Study One. They show a lot of variation between the samples tested in triplicate.

The single-egg batches, on the other hand, did indeed have lower variance than the 4-egg batches. There was much closer agreement between different samples from the same eggs, than samples from different eggs. Certainly we see a difference between the egg used for Batch 3, which all samples indicate contains about 1 mg/kg lithium, and the egg used for Batch 4, which all samples indicate contains about 5 mg/kg lithium

This suggests that there really may be appreciable egg-to-egg variation. This could be the result of other factors, including simple randomness, but the tightness of the single-egg analyses is suggestive. And the fact that the variance seems much lower in single-egg batches implies that the mixed four-egg batches are imperfectly blended.

The sodium results for these batches seem to confirm this, with greater variation in sodium in the four-egg batches than in the one-egg batches: 

Again, this suggests that the patterns we observe in the lithium data are the result of actual results in the world, or the analysis in general, rather than some artifact of the lithium analysis in particular.

4. Discussion

Nearly all egg samples contained detectable levels of lithium, and around 60% of samples contained more than 1 mg/kg lithium (fresh weight). These results appear to confirm that eggs generally contain lithium.

If you accept the argument that the three samples with conspicuously low sodium readings are the result of a failure of analysis, then all egg samples contained detectable levels of lithium. 

In terms of diversity of results, samples varied from as much as 15 mg/kg Li+ to as little as less than 1 mg/kg Li+. Variation did not seem to be related to the geographic purchase origin of the eggs. Nor were there any obvious differences between organic and non-organic, or white and brown eggs. This suggests that these are not major sources of variation. 

However, we did see evidence of a lot of variation in lithium levels between individual eggs, even between individual eggs from the same carton. 

While there was a lot of variation between samples, some samples showed a great deal of consistency, especially samples from single eggs. This suggests that dry ashing followed by ICP-OES has high precision when analyzing food samples for lithium. Though these results do not speak to whether or not this analytical method is accurate for such samples, they do suggest that these are real measurements and not merely the result of noise or analytical errors.  

One of our hopes for this study was to find an egg that contained more than 15 mg/kg lithium, that we could subject to other, less sensitive analytical methods. This would let us get a sense of accuracy by triangulation, comparing the results of different methods when analyzing samples of the same egg.

We did in fact find eggs that contain such high concentrations. Above we reported the lithium concentrations in fresh weight, because those are the numbers that are relevant if you are eating eggs. But in terms of analysis thresholds, the numbers that matter are the dry weight. For dry weight, some of these egg samples contain as much as 60 mg/kg lithium. That’s more than enough to be above the sensitivity of a technique like AAS. 

As we are quite interested in trying to confirm the accuracy of lithium analyses in food, one next step will be to replicate these analyses using other analytical techniques like AAS.

Links for June 2024

We enjoy Matt Reynolds’ writing (especially this piece on ORS), so it was very nice to receive a shout-out in his new piece for WIRED: Potatoes Are the Perfect Vegetable—but You’re Eating Them Wrong

A New Atlantis: “Britain should reclaim an area the size of Wales from Dogger Bank, the area of the North Sea where the sea is only 15-40m deep. We could do it for less than £100bn.” 

Everyone please welcome Matt Quinn to the online science effort to cure obesity. See for example his response to a response to A Chemical Hunger and his Potassium Maxxing – the results

10 technologies that won’t exist in 5 years: “Technological progress is not a mystical force that delivers the most important [technologies] first. Some problems are hard to solve, and won’t make you much money even if you succeed, and don’t get talked about on the news. What people choose to work on determines what new technologies are made. The 10 technologies above are worth working on.” We really love this one!

Jalapeños really are getting less spicy

Thermobolic on twitter reports “total failure” on a Personal Fat Loss / Coconut Oil Maxxing Experiment. We’re glad to see this report, null results are also important!

Friend-of-the-blog Uri Bram writes for the Atlantic: The Cure for Hiccups Exists. Among other things, it’s an interesting account of the interplay between reddit research and mainstream medical science.

Moctezuma III on twitter: “i love wikipedia, because you can have a random thought like ‘when was pocky invented’ and then learn that the companies president was kidnapped in 1984 by a criminal that called themselves ‘The Monster with 21 Faces’ and who was never caught.”

Streamer Perrikaryal claims to be able to play (and win) games using a non-invasive brain-computer interface (plus eyetracking), with a recent claim of beating the first Shadow of the Erdtree boss without touching a controller. (See also: “a clip of what mental controls I use and how I get around”). Big if true but unfortunately, easily faked by having someone else holding the controller off-camera, or any number of other methods. On the other hand, you could certainly try to replicate it at home. 

Even better new prosthetics?

Empirical tubetti: A Better Way To Cook Pasta? Doesn’t quite deliver on the promise of “see how many pasta rules we can break”, but it’s a nice start. 

The Time magazine article, “Science: Fudging Data for Fun and Profit” gives an interesting look at the state of science fraud and institutional confidence back in December 1981.

A recent paper, Bilateral gene therapy in children with autosomal recessive deafness, reports using gene therapy to treat hereditary deafness in five children. According to the paper, gene therapy worked: 

All patients had bilateral hearing restoration. The average auditory brainstem response threshold in the right (left) ear was >95 dB (>95 dB) in all patients at baseline, and the average auditory brainstem response threshold in the right (left) ear was restored to 58 dB (58 dB) in patient 1, 75 dB (85 dB) in patient 2, 55 dB (50 dB) in patient 3 at 26 weeks, and 75 dB (78 dB) in patient 4 and 63 dB (63 dB) in patient 5 at 13 weeks. The speech perception and the capability of sound source localization were restored in all five patients.

The Whitworth Three Plates Method

Origins of the Lab Mouse — the author says, “My new essay for Asimov Press is ostensibly about the unlikely origin story of the lab mouse. But it’s actually about the role of chance in scientific discovery, and how random contingencies can lead to technological lock-in.” For example, “In one case, a gene that appeared to be toxic to the liver when using one substrain of black 6 as a control seemed to instead protect liver function when a different substrain was used.” If this is true, how can we possibly expect any mouse research to generalize to humans? In fact, how can we expect something true for some humans to be true for any other humans? To be honest, a more likely explanation is that the described result is simply not true, and is actually the result of p-hacking or other research malpractice. In general this is a good background piece on specifically why not to take mouse research too seriously.

The compound bow combines two ancient inventions, the bow and the pulley. But it wasn’t until 1967, “after six years of development in the garage of its inventor in Missouri, a strange looking device, described as a ‘compound’ bow was born.” ZyMazza on twitter expounds, “A brilliant innovation hidden to humanity for like 4000ish years. What two things are waiting to be combined today?” 

DefenderOfBasic on twitter, “sick & tired of not being able to share links to my articles on twitter. having to share a screenshot and say ‘link in bio’ like a goddamn porn bot” decided “enough is enough” and “made a little tool to circumvent this stupid censorship”. May be helpful for those of you on both twitter and substack. 

Sensitivity to visual features in inattentional blindness:

Naïve observers fail to report clearly visible stimuli when their attention is otherwise engaged—famously even missing a gorilla parading before their eyes (Simons & Chabris, 1999). This phenomenon and the research programs it has motivated carry tremendous theoretical significance … However, these and other implications critically rest on a notoriously biased measure: asking participants whether they noticed anything unusual (and interpreting negative answers as reflecting a complete lack of visual awareness). Here, in the largest ever set of IB studies, we show that inattentionally blind participants can successfully report the location, color and shape of the stimuli they deny noticing.

Best summation of how we feel about semaglutide:

Links for May 2024

Adam Mastroianni announces The Summer 2024 Blog Post Competition, Extravaganza, and Jamboree, complete with cash prizes:

I want to prime the pump, discover some new writers, and hopefully help them reach more people. It can be a grueling slog when you’re just a lil weirdo starting out. Good stuff does tend to spread on the internet, but it has to reach a certain critical mass of attention first. I got a couple key boosts early on that helped me keep going, so I’d like to do the same for the next generation.

Sea Urchins Love Sporting Cowboy and Viking Hats. Also, see here for the original thread on reef2reef.com

Game Boy Camera Gallery: Mystery Show by Scratching Post Studio

Predictions for 2050 are already coming in! First off, our prediction “Assistive Technology Meets in the Middle” is already partially fulfilled by This Next-Gen Hiking Tech. It’s even available for purchase, assuming the Kickstarter goes through. And our prediction “Everything Will be on Video” is once more fulfilled by the recent and stunning meteor in Portugal (video compilation, dashcam video, awesome selfie video).

Baryonic Musings: It’s Potato Time Again! – Interesting account of a potato diet case study. The author saw a lot of previous success with the potato diet, saying, “I last tried the potato diet in September 2022 and it worked great, losing ~23 pounds in 21 days. Here I go again.” But this attempt had to be stopped early. Despite losing 0.9 lbs/day, the author had to stop after only 8 days. “Well, it was working, but something’s a bit different this time. I’m constantly hungry.” Post includes some speculation as to why.

How 3M Execs Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe

Exposure of U.S. adults to microplastics from commonly-consumed proteins — We’re still skeptical of microplastics causing obesity, but here is this paper just in case. (h/t Krinn)

My hour of memoryless lucidity, and the sequel Some Experiments I’d Like Someone To Try With An Amnestic, all from LessWrong.

‘Shut up and calculate’: how Einstein lost the battle to explain quantum reality

Clearer Thinking’s Astrology Challenge:

A scientific test of astrological skill that any astrologer in the world can take. We developed it by working closely with astrologers who generously volunteered their time to help. It consists of 12 multiple-choice questions. For each, you’ll presented with tons of information about a real person, as well as 5 astrological charts, and your goal is to say which of the 5 natal charts is that person’s real chart (the other 4 charts are random and have nothing to do with that person). If you’re the first to get at least 11 out of 12 multiple choice questions correct (among the first 200 challengers), then you win a $1000 prize! Participation is completely secret, so nobody will know you participated unless you choose to announce it. After the challenge closes, we’ll tell you how many questions you got right on the test, as well as whether you won.

We previously ran a test of sun sign astrology (i.e., the idea that whether you’re a Pisces, Aries, etc., impacts your life) and found that sun signs were not able to predict any of the 37 life outcomes that we tested. Although sun sign astrology is extremely popular (about 1 in 3 Americans at least somewhat believe in it), astrologers rightly pointed out that the study was not a test of astrology as most astrologers practice it since they use much more complex methods involving full astrological charts. This inspired the development of this test, which is based on whole charts.

… If astrology works, then that calls for a revolution in our scientific understanding of how the universe operates since modern physics provides no mechanism that could explain astrology. In such an instance, it would also teach us something important about scientific bias and what scientists miss. On the other hand, if astrology doesn’t work at all, I also think that is very important because astrology is extremely widely believed. Literally millions of people use it to guide their understanding of their lives, character, and future. If it doesn’t work, they’d be better off seeking other sources of understanding and insight.

Brine thoughts: ​​the unspoken, instinctive need for a sweet-tangy-salty beverage in the heat, the combination of sugar, savory, and acid…the American yearns for kala khatta but they do not know it…

Wounded orangutan seen using plant as medicine – The coverage is dumb but the observation is fascinating if true.

Photographs of the Los Angeles Alligator Farm (ca. 1907):

Visitors — and their pets — could get alligator carriage rides or watch them rocket down slides; toddlers could have their picture taken with a crowd of hatchlings and even bring one home at the end of the day. 

The lack of regulations for the safety of captive animals, staff, or visitors allowed for a level of casual proximity with adult alligators that would be unthinkable today. One photo shows a group of young women enjoying a half-submerged picnic in a park enclosure complete with what the caption claims to be a birthday cake for one of the reptiles. A keeper stands to one side, club in hand, to make sure nothing goes awry. 

@AndyJScott “Was wondering if the whole ‘sugar causes cavities’ thing has good data behind it and guess what”

“shout out to the kid blasting 700g of sugar with no cavities” (source)

The Double-Headed Model of Obesity

A control system is a mechanism — mechanical, biological, or otherwise — that forces a measure towards a reference. One example is a thermostat. You set the desired temperature of your house to 73 degrees Fahrenheit, and the thermostat springs into action, to get its reading to 73 °F or die trying.

The usual assumption is that a control system works like a target, and tries to correct deviations from that target. Take a look at the simplified diagram below. In this case, the control system is set to the target indicated by the big arrow, at about 73 °F. Since control is less than perfect, the temperature isn’t always kept exactly on target, but in general the control system keeps it very close, in the range indicated in blue.

However, there are other ways to design a control system. 

One way is to make a single-headed control system, that has a reference level, and simply keeps the measure either above or below that level. For example, this single-headed control system is designed to keep the temperature above 70 °F:

This is how early thermostats worked, and how many still work in practice. They do nothing at all until the temperature drops below some reference level, at which point they turn on the furnace, driving temperature upwards. Once the temperature returns above the reference level, the furnace is switched off. Barring any serious disturbances, this keeps the temperature in the range indicated in blue. 

This works fine if your house is in Wales or in Scandinavia, where things never get too hot. But what if you want to control the temperature in both directions? 

Easy. You just add a second single-headed control system on top of the first one, controlling the same signal in the opposite direction. This is a double-headed control system, that keeps the signal between two reference values: 

One “head” kicks in if the temperature gets too low, and takes corrective actions like turning on the furnace. The other kicks in if the temperature gets too high, and takes corrective actions like turning on the air conditioning. Together they form a larger control system that, barring any damage or huge disturbances, keeps the temperature in the range indicated in blue.  

(Both “single-headed” and “double-headed” are terms of our own invention. There may be official terms for these concepts in control engineering. If so, we haven’t been able to find them. We would love to hear if there are existing terms, please let us know!)

There is some reason to think that biological control systems in animals are mostly double-headed. This is due to the fact that these control systems are built out of neurons, and neural currents are in units of frequency of firing. Unlike other signals, frequency of firing can’t be negative: the number of impulses that occur in a unit of time must be zero or greater.[1]

Obesity

The current scientific consensus on obesity (link, link, link, link, link) is that it is the result of a problem with the control system(s) in charge of regulating body fat, the set of systems sometimes called the lipostat (lipos = fat). 

We can explore this idea through a few examples. For the purposes of illustration, let’s use BMI for our units. BMI isn’t perfect as a measure — obviously your nervous system doesn’t actually measure its weight by calculating BMI — but it’s a simple and familiar number that will do the trick. In general we should make it clear, all the following examples are greatly simplified. In reality, the body seems to have many control systems to regulate body weight, not just one. 

For starters, we know that the lipostat can’t be single-headed, because with ready access to food, people don’t generally starve to death, nor do they become fatter and fatter until they burst. 

Clearly body weight is controlled in both directions. This means it’s a double-headed system. One part of the lipostat keeps you from getting thinner than a certain threshold. And another, separate part of the lipostat keeps you from getting fatter than a different threshold.

On to the examples. A person with a healthy lipostat would look something like this: 

The two heads are set to different points, leaving a bit of room between the upper and the lower thresholds. This person’s weight can easily wander between BMIs of about 20 and 23, pushed around by normal behavior. But if they go above that upper limit, or below the lower limit, powerful systems kick into play to drive their weight back into the blue range between the two heads of the system.

What about someone whose lipostat is not healthy, someone who has become obese? One way for this to happen is for both heads to be pushed to higher thresholds, like so:

Here you can see that the upper head has been set to a BMI of about 35, and the lower head to a BMI of about 31. As before, their weight is mostly free to wander between those two levels. If they’re trying to lose weight, they can probably push their BMI down to 31. But it will be very hard to push it past that point, since the lipostat will resist them vigorously. After all, the lower limit is designed to keep us from starving to death, so it has a lot of power behind it. 

On the other hand, this person basically doesn’t have to worry about their BMI climbing above 35, since the upper limit is also defended. As long as their lipostat isn’t disrupted any further, they will remain within that range.

However, the heads don’t have to move together. They are at least somewhat independent systems, with separate set points. So another way to become obese is like this: 

This person still has a lower limit of BMI 20, just like the healthy person in the first example. But they have an upper limit of BMI 35, as high as than the obese person in the second example! 

This person is sometimes obese. On the one hand, unlike a person with a healthy lipostat, there’s nothing to keep this person’s weight from drifting up to a BMI as high as 35. So if they’re not “careful”, if they eat freely and without particular attention, sometimes it will.

But on the other hand, there’s nothing keeping this person from driving their BMI as low as 20, by doing nothing but eating less and exercising more. They don’t risk hitting a starvation response until they are well into the healthy BMI range, so they have little difficulty losing weight when they want to.

Lots of people find it really hard to lose weight. But you also encounter a lot of people who say things like, “when I was overweight I just decided to lose some weight, counted calories for a while, and made it happen, and it wasn’t that hard.” The double-headed model may explain the difference. Calorie-counters who sometimes drift upwards but can easily lower their weight on a whim have an altered upper threshold but a healthy lower threshold, while everyone else has had both their upper and lower thresholds pushed to obese new set points, and they face massive biological resistance when they try to return to a lower BMI.

Slightly Complicated

Our friend and colleague ExFatLoss likes to describe obesity as a slightly complicated problem. No one has solved obesity yet, but it doesn’t seem totally chaotic, so maybe there are just a few weird things that we’re missing. We agree that this seems likely, and one way that obesity could be slightly complicated is if different things are causing changes to the thresholds of the upper and lower heads of our lipostats.

To take a traditional example, perhaps eating lots of sugar raises your upper threshold, and eating lots of fat raises your lower threshold. In this model, if you eat lots of sugar but not lots of fat, your weight might drift up, but you can still control it. If you eat lots of fat, your weight is pushed up and can’t be pushed back down.

To take an example that seems more plausible to us, maybe one contaminant raises the upper threshold of your lipostat, and a different contaminant raises the lower threshold. Perhaps phthalates raise your upper threshold. This wouldn’t be very noticeable by itself, because you could still control your weight with diet and exercise. But maybe on top of that, exposure to lithium raises your lower threshold. This would keep you from pushing your weight back down. In combination, exposure to both contaminants would force you into obesity. (We should stress that this is a hypothetical, we have no idea whether these particular contaminants affect one head, or both, or neither.) 

So much for things being slightly complicated. One way that obesity could be very complicated is if there are not just two heads, but lots of them, maybe dozens. This is almost certainly the case. Biology tends to be massively redundant, so the most likely scenario is that the body has several different ways of measuring your body fat, and each of these measures probably has its own control systems. So you probably have many “upper” and “lower” thresholds, all interacting. It might look something like this:   

In this case, there are five heads making for five thresholds. The black thresholds have been forced wide open, defending a healthy lower BMI but a pretty high upper BMI. The red threshold is an additional lower defense, trying to keep BMI above 21. And the white thresholds are fixed to defending a range that’s solidly overweight to obese. This person is most likely to end up somewhere in the range that’s darkest blue, but could see movement all over the place. They won’t face serious resistance unless they try to push their BMI above 35 or below 20. But anything that raised the set point for that red threshold or the bottom black threshold would seriously limit their ability to stay lean.

Again, even this more complicated example is probably an oversimplification. While these models are good for illustration, real biology almost certainly involves more than 5 heads, defending lots of different thresholds in many different ways. 

Your biology defending various thresholds with its many heads.

There is at least one other way in which a person could become obese. As before, you could set the lower limit quite high, say to keep a person’s BMI above 31. Then you could set the upper limit below the lower limit, like so: 

The behavior of such a system is left as an exercise for the reader.


[1]: The systems engineer and control theorist William T. Powers explains this idea in Chapter 5 of his book Behavior: The Control of Perception:

The “reference signal” is a neural current having some magnitude. It is assumed to be generated elsewhere in the nervous system. It is a reference signal not because of anything special about it, but because it enters a “comparator” that also receives the perceptual signal. … 

The comparator is a subtractor. The perceptual signal enters in the inhibitory sense (minus sign), and the reference signal enters in the excitatory sense (positive sign). The resulting “error signal” has a magnitude proportional to the algebraic sum of these two neural currents — which means that when perceptual and reference signals are equal, the error signal will be zero. If both signs are reversed at the inputs of the comparator, the result will be the same. The reader may wish to remind himself here of how a neural-current subtractor works by designing a comparator that will generate one output signal for positive errors, and another for negative errors. (This is necessary because neural currents cannot change sign.)

Links for April 2024

“I would like to thank the Idaho Potato Commission for assembling a categorized database of 1,700 potato recipes from around the world. I consult it frequently and it has become my favorite potato resource.” And here it is.

“They even have a chatbot that does medical consultations”

While Lucas M. Miller was serving in Congress, he proposed a Constitutional amendment to change the country’s name to “the United States of the Earth” because “it is possible for this republic to grow through the admission of new states…until every nation on earth has become part of it.”

In 1995 New Mexico’s state senate proposed an amendment that would have required psychologists to dress up as wizards when providing expert testimony on a defendant’s competency. Our friend Tim says, “They were cowards to not adopt it.”

When a psychologist or psychiatrist testifies during a defendant’s competency hearing, the psychologist or psychiatrist shall wear a cone-shaped hat that is not less than two feet tall. The surface of the hat shall be imprinted with stars and lightning bolts. Additionally, a psychologist or psychiatrist shall be required to don a white beard that is not less than 18 inches in length and shall punctuate crucial elements of his testimony by stabbing the air with a wand. Whenever a psychologist or psychiatrist provides expert testimony regarding a defendant’s competency, the bailiff shall contemporaneously dim the courtroom lights and administer two strikes to a Chinese gong.

@sonikudzu on twitter goes after the claim that most of the nutrition in a potato is in its skin.

In the context of horse racing, a milkshake is a combination administered to a horse, pre-race, intended to cause metabolic alkalosis of the blood. In theory this is a performance enhancer. Claims:

Nobel Laureate in Medicine Barry Marshall, who showed that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori plays a major role in causing many peptic ulcers, had this experience early in his career:  

In 1982 Marshall and Warren obtained funding for one year of research. The first 30 out of 100 samples showed no support for their hypothesis. However, it was discovered that the lab technicians had been throwing out the cultures after two days. This was standard practice for throat swabs where other organisms in the mouth rendered cultures unusable after two days. Due to other hospital work, the lab technicians did not have time to immediately throw out the 31st test on the second day, and so it stayed from Thursday through to the following Monday. In that sample, they discovered the presence of H. pylori. They later found out that H. pylori grows more slowly than the conventional two days required by other mucosal bacteria, and that stomach cultures were not contaminated by other organisms.

In 1983 they submitted their findings thus far to the Gastroenterological Society of Australia, but the reviewers turned their paper down, rating it in the bottom 10% of those they received that year.

Friend of the blog Dynomight writes a review of the theory that seed oils are the root cause of obesity and/or other western diseases. He concludes: 

A weak version of seed oil theory is that seed oils are highly processed, so why not use cold-pressed olive oil instead? If that’s the theory, fine. In fact, this is mostly what I do myself. I figure it might be useless, but it’s unlikely to be harmful, and olive oil is delicious.

But seed oil theorists mostly seem to push a much stronger theory: We know that seed oils are the cause of Western disease.

I’ll just be honest. I think this view is completely indefensible. I feel embarrassed when I see people promoting it. You’re sure? How? I don’t see any way to get to this conclusion other than heavily filtering the evidence—ignoring the flaws in everything that supports a predetermined view while scrambling to find flaws in everything that contradicts it.

Philosophical Transactions: JV on Explorations of Isotonic Brine Space

Previous Philosophical Transactions:

JV is a reader and intrepid high-dimensional pioneer who wrote us with some thoughts and comments on the exploration of brinespace. His email is reproduced below, lightly edited for clarity and to help preserve anonymity, but otherwise the same as we received it.


Hello Slimes

I’m a long time reader of your blog and greatly enjoyed your recent post wrt. explorations of brine space. I’ve engaged in somewhat similar experiments due to some health problems (IBS-D is a likely diagnosis but I’m still hoping for something a bit more actionable). Particularly, I had some temporary success about a year ago experimenting with potassium chloride which greatly improved my wellbeing for about two weeks but then, unfortunately, it stopped working. My experiment was similar to Krinn’s in terms of dosage but with the crucial difference that I did not add sugar to the solution. I now understand, thanks to several of your recent blogs and references therein, why this may have caused my experiment to fail.

I’ve decided to give potassium chloride another go, using Krinn’s experiment as a point of departure. In considering the optimal experimental strategy for searching brine space, I conducted a brief mathematical exercise that I think may interest you as well. My brief experiment can be replicated in the attached python script. 

I should probably mention somewhere, that I’m a complete ignoramus wrt. chemistry, so this is a purely mathematical exercise with all the attendant risks of making stupid chemistry 101-level conceptual mistakes.

Anyway, I jumped right in and tried to replicate Krinn’s solution. I don’t have Gatorade easily available, so I used normal lemonade and added roughly two teaspoons of potassium chloride to 1 liter of water along with the normal amount of lemonade (1:4 mixing ratio) and a teaspoon of salt. In short order, I discovered two things: ingesting the solution 1) made me feel better and greatly reduced my appetite (yay!) and 2) made several subsequent visits to the bathroom urgently necessary (boo!). Reading a bit more about the formulation of ORS explained the latter phenomenon: I had inadvertently made a hypertonic solution, meaning that solution drew water into the intestines due to the osmotic gradient. Apparently, this amount of water was such that it could not be reabsorbed. Thus, I arrived at the conclusion that I should make future solutions isotonic (i.e. eliminate the osmotic gradient) or, like the more recent formulation of ORS, slightly hypotonic to facilitate absorption of the mineral salts. 

You may have encountered the formulation of the reduced osmolarity ORS with an slightly hypotonic osmolarity of 245 mOsm/l relative to the previous formation with isotonic osmolarity of 311 mOsm/l (https://www.rehydrate.org/ors/low-osmolarity-ors.htm). It makes sense, to me personally, that the optimal tonicity of any ingested solution should be somewhere in this interval. After all, hypertonic solutions have the major disadvantage that the ingested mineral salts are rapidly excreted, rendering them useless. And so, I assume that any experimental brines should be, at the very least, isotonic but, probably, somewhat hypotonic to facilitate easy absorption. If this assumption is correct, it would have the major advantage, that it significantly reduces the amount of brine space that we need to investigate as the subset of ideally hypotonic brine space (say 245 mOsm/l) is much smaller.

First, I created a script to calculate the osmolarity of Krinn’s solution. In the attached script, the amounts correspond to the ingredients in blue gatorade which result in a calculated osmolarity of 245.6 mOsm/l. I assume it is no coincidence that this closely mirrors the osmolarity of the recent formulation of ORS and, in fact, googling the osmolarity of gatorade, I encountered several criticism of the osmolarity of Gatorade from 10-15 years ago, so I assume the formulation was changed in response.

Of course, this means that adding two heaping teaspoons (slightly less as Krinn was adding them to 20 oz bottles) creates a severely hypertonic solution, which explains my experience with my attempt at Krinn’s solution. This is in no way a criticism of Krinn’s post and, in particular, I note that she writes that she “sips” the solution during the day, which probably explains why she didn’t have any issues. For myself, however, I think it’s better idea to make a hypotonic solution so that I can drink as much as I want.

Second, I created a script to identify the optimally hypotonic subset of brine space in a solution of sugar, salt and potassium chloride. That is, I assume a certain target osmolarity (245 mOsm/l) and amount of sugar (20 g/l) and find the combinations of salt and potassium chloride that results in the optimally hypotonic solution. The result is illustrated below, showing me that I should use quite a bit less of both minerals, close to perhaps 1 teaspoon of potassium chloride and maybe 1/5 teaspoon of salt per liter.

Third, I created a script to do the same for three minerals, using calcium chloride as an example but you could use any mineral salt, really.

Based on these experiments, I conclude that the assumption of the optimally hypotonic solution leads to a subset of brine space that is a linear plane, which should drastically limit the combinations to investigate.

Anyway, I hope you find this interesting and/or useful. At any rate, this is the approach I will take to exploring brine space. If I make any further progress, I’ll let you know.

If you wish, you may freely use or reference this material and the attached script.

Best wishes,

JV

Links for March 2024

potassium-weight-loss.org — Alex Chernavsky conducts a N=1 study of potassium supplementation taking ~8000 mg of potassium a day for two months, loses about 4.2 lbs: 

We Used To Eat A Lot More Without Becoming Obese by ​​Sven Schnieders:

The mainstream theory regarding the obesity crisis is that people consume excessive calories and move insufficiently – “calories in, calories out.” Alternative nutritional perspectives, such as Keto and Veganism, challenge this narrative only to some extent. Keto proponents attribute obesity primarily to excessive carbohydrate intake, while vegan advocates point to excessive meat consumption. Despite divergences on the impact of specific food groups, there is a near-universal consensus on the overconsumption of sugar in modern diets.

A problem with all of these theories is that historically we used to eat a lot more – including a lot more carbs or sugar.

Unraveling the Mystery of San Francisco 7-Eleven Stores Selling Onigiri With the Mayor’s Face on Them. This was not a real program by the city of San Francisco — in fact, it was a project by Danielle Baskin to manifest 7-11 onigiri in America. Excellent scheme, we hope it works.

Victorians loved redwood trees and decided to plant them all over the UK. In fact, they planted so many that there are now more redwoods in the UK than in America. “The Victorians were so impressed that they brought seeds and seedlings from the US in such large numbers that there are now approximately 500,000 in Britain … [while] California has about 80,000.” Like most trees, redwoods start out small. But they do not end up small. At their full potential they would be about three times taller than any other species in the UK, and they have recently started to outgrow the surrounding native trees

Seeds of Science — Doing the Science Ourselves

Newspapers and Thinking the Unthinkable:

There is one possible answer to the question “If the old model is broken, what will work in its place?” The answer is: Nothing will work, but everything might. Now is the time for experiments, lots and lots of experiments, each of which will seem as minor at launch as craigslist did, as Wikipedia did, as octavo volumes did.

Society doesn’t need newspapers. What we need is journalism. For a century, the imperatives to strengthen journalism and to strengthen newspapers have been so tightly wound as to be indistinguishable. That’s been a fine accident to have, but when that accident stops, as it is stopping before our eyes, we’re going to need lots of other ways to strengthen journalism instead. 

When we shift our attention from ‘save newspapers’ to ‘save society’, the imperative changes from ‘preserve the current institutions’ to ‘do whatever works.’ And what works today isn’t the same as what used to work.

(Warning: Spiders) @abcdentminded: “Found this guy on youtube who intentionally gets bitten by black widows and brown recluses to prove that spiders are innocent and all necrotic wounds are just misdiagnoses or infections. He holds them against his skin to get several-second bites that deliver >x3 the normal venom load. I honestly believe him at this point.” Wild if true; obvious alternative explanations include 1) he’s built up some kind of an immunity, or 2) people’s bodies are different enough that some people can shrug off venomous spider bites and other people fucking die. The channel is Jack’s World of Wildlife, and is obviously not for the faint of heart.

Why are Americans getting shorter? Very strange, and holds true even among native born white Americans who are not seniors. Also notable, this is yet another thing that seems to influence women more than men:

Blogger @anabology starts longestlevers.com, a collection of “static protocols for dynamic lives”. See for example the page on the honey diet.

I wanted a diet where I could eat as much as I possibly could, as a fairly lean individual already, and still lose weight. This is my attempt at that. It seemed to work — eating 1 lb of honey + 1/2 pound of dates a day, I lost 10 lbs in a month or so, and my bloodwork just got better.

Benefits I experienced: – I ate as much as I could and still lost weight. – My cortisol and estrogen both went down. My DHEA went up. Blood biomarkers generally looked better. – Never had so few migraines. – Good constant energy and mental clarity. 

Drawbacks: – Honey was not very tasty. If I did it again, I’d diversify with more simple sugary fruits. – Near the end, I was committed on the “1 lb of honey a day” thing, and some days I had a lower appetite due to lack of sleep from work. I still forced myself to eat all the honey, but if I did it again, I would never force myself to eat when I’m not hungry. Just not worth it from the insulin perspective.

There is way too much serendipity — “It is therefore a fact of the world that virtually all the popular synthetic sweeteners were discovered accidentally by chemists randomly eating their research topic.”

Ars Technica — Surprising link found between niacin and risk of heart attack and stroke

Object permanence in newborn chicks is robust against opposing evidence:

Newborn animals have advanced perceptual skills at birth, but the nature of this initial knowledge is unknown. Is initial knowledge flexible, continuously adapting to the statistics of experience? Or can initial knowledge be rigid and robust to change, even in the face of opposing evidence? We address this question through controlled-rearing experiments on newborn chicks. First, we reared chicks in an impoverished virtual world, where objects never occluded one another, and found that chicks still succeed on object permanence tasks. Second, we reared chicks in a virtual world in which objects teleported from one location to another while out of view: an unnatural event that violates the continuity of object motion. Despite seeing thousands of these violations of object permanence, and not a single non-violation, the chicks behaved as if object permanence were true, exhibiting the same behavior as chicks reared with natural object permanence events. We conclude that object permanence develops prenatally and is robust to change from opposing evidence.